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[rumblytumbly]

I didn't sign any bid card...

[FAB*SpiceySpice]

Originally Posted by rumblytumbly

I didn't sign any bid card...

***Anyone with more insight into this matter please correct my mistakes***

As far as I know, and from what I remember from my time going through recruitment (fall 2001, so not too long ago ) is that if you are offered a bid from any of the houses you listed on your pref card, regardless of whether or not you accepted it (ie signed a bid card) then you are ineligible for recruitment for one calendar year. When you did your final rankings, after pref, and a house listed there (1-3) offers you a bid, it means that you have "matched" with a group which is what make you ineligible to participate in COB or COR until at least next August. If you had suicided on your bid card (only listed 1 house) and were not offered a bid by them, then you would still be available for other recruitment events now. I hope this makes sense, and I'm sure some of our recruitment gurus here can make this a little clearer, but I hope it helps you a little!

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by FAB*SpiceySpice

***Anyone with more insight into this matter please correct my mistakes***

As far as I know, and from what I remember from my time going through recruitment (fall 2001, so not too long ago ) is that if you are offered a bid from any of the houses you listed on your pref card, regardless of whether or not you accepted it (ie signed a bid card) then you are ineligible for recruitment for one calendar year. When you did your final rankings, after pref, and a house listed there (1-3) offers you a bid, it means that you have "matched" with a group which is what make you ineligible to participate in COB or COR until at least next August. If you had suicided on your bid card (only listed 1 house) and were not offered a bid by them, then you would still be available for other recruitment events now. I hope this makes sense, and I'm sure some of our recruitment gurus here can make this a little clearer, but I hope it helps you a little!

Thanks for clarifying! That's what I meant

[PenguinTrax]

Originally Posted by rumblytumbly

I didn't sign any bid card...

Did you rank groups on a card after Preference and sign it?

[rumblytumbly]

I'm not allowed to through formal rcruitment for 1 year but spring recruitment is informal...right?

[AChiOhSnap]

Originally Posted by rumblytumbly

I'm not allowed to through formal rcruitment for 1 year but spring recruitment is informal...right?

Here's my advice to you:

Go to the informal recruitment events (if they are open invitation events) this spring. Obviously, if there are private parties or invitation-only events, you probably won't be invited but that's because the chapters know you can't accept a bid until next year. But go to the ones that are open invitation, if they even have those at your college. You can meet all the girls and really get to know them, and then if you do decide to go through formal recruitment again, you'll have a base of members that you already know. It can only help you. You're not eligible to receive any sort of bid though, until the next formal recruitment.

[xo_kathy]

Originally Posted by rumblytumbly

I didn't sign any bid card...

Often times the term "bid" is used when in reality people are actually referring to card you filled out after pref parties that had your ranking on it. By filling that out it means you will accept a bid from any of the sororities you listed. Since you were offered a bid and did not accept it, you are now ineleigible to participate in any form of recruitment for one calendar year.

[AZ-AlphaXi]

Originally Posted by xo_kathy

Since you were offered a bid and did not accept it, you are now ineleigible to participate in any form of recruitment for one calendar year.

This includes COB at anytime during the year and informal recruitment in the spring. You are not allowed to accept an invitation to join an NPC group until formal recruitment next year.

[IHeartUGA]

It's my understanding that unless she actually signed a bid card she is free to participate in any form of recruitment that she wants. However, if she were to have actually SIGNED the bid card, only then would she have to wait one calendar year to participate in recruitment.

[_Lisa_]

It breaks my heart to see someone get a bid & not even give the house a chance. God knows how many girls would've loved a bid.

[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by crzychx

It breaks my heart to see someone get a bid & not even give the house a chance. God knows how many girls would've loved a bid.

That may be true, but it is still her choice and I don't think it is our place to give her a hard time for making the decision that she feels is right for her. I give her credit for continuing to post and answer questions!

Quite honestly, I see the potential nightmare in encouraging SIP, but if more PNMs who wanted to SIP, did SIP and were released from recruitment rather than be placed into a chapter someone else may have wanted, we would likely have more committed long-term members. Sure, plenty of women receive their 2nd choice or lower... and end up happy. Even more get their first choice and end up happy. And somewhere along their 4 years in college, they decide they don't want to be part of a sorority anymore, for whatever the reason, and drop.

I'd rather see someone not show up at Bid Day b/c she knows it is not what she wants, then to put up a pretense and spend a lot of time and money, and for the chapter to invest their time and hearts into someone who doesn't want to be there.

I'm not coming down on your crazychx, but I am reading this thread and I feel a lot of anymosity coming from sorority women to this girl. If she hadn't been matched, this thread would be covered with (((hugs))) and regrets and good luck wishes. Instead, we're being critical. Yes, I feel that if you give your 2 or 7th choice a shot you may love it, but that has to be a snap decision you make on Bid Day, and if you're so disappointed and unhappy at seeing your top choice did not make you an offer, you may go home crying instead. Or worse, lock yourself into the bathroom of your new sorority house, spreading your misery to the rest of the happy chapter and new sisters.

So, I'm happy that Rumbly made the decision that this wasn't what she wanted. Maybe she'll rush again and get into the chapter she wants to become a member of; maybe that sorority will be a different sorority than it was this fall. Maybe she won't get into the chapter she wants if she rushes again. But the fact is that this fall is over, and she didn't join a sorority. Let's stop pressuring her. I imagine that this is a hard time for her as it is.

[_Lisa_]

Thats OK adpiucf, I know you aren't coming down on me & I understand what you're saying.

And Adelphean, I definitely wouldn't want a girl crying at the house if she didn't want to be there. I don't know how other schools do it, but at UK the girls that don't want to sign their bids don't ever have to meet the other pledges or sisters.

My comment was mostly made to show how I feel in regards to everyone keeping an open mind. It makes me sad to see someone not keep an open mind & be willing to give any sorority a chance, when there are so many girls that received no bid & would be willing. Thats all, I'm not trying to come down on the OP.

[Adelphean]

Originally Posted by crzychx

It breaks my heart to see someone get a bid & not even give the house a chance. God knows how many girls would've loved a bid.

But do you want a girl who doesn't want to be there in YOUR house on bid day? The one thing I CAN'T stand is a crying girl who didn't get her favorite XYZ house on bid day. If you don't want to be there, you shouldn't have come in the first place.

[AChiOhSnap]

Originally Posted by Adelphean

But do you want a girl who doesn't want to be there in YOUR house on bid day? The one thing I CAN'T stand is a crying girl who didn't get her favorite XYZ house on bid day. If you don't want to be there, you shouldn't have come in the first place.

Ugh, I hate it too. I don't care how upset a new member is about her bid, crying is downright rude. This past year a PNM named "Sally" went to our pref ceremony and another sorority's pref ceremony. She ranked the other sorority first and AXO second. Right after she turned in her bid card she had a change of heart and decided she really wanted AXO. Well of course they told her she couldn't do that, that bid matching had already begun and it was final. She started bawling to the director of Greek Life, all the Rho Chis and Panhel president, and nobody could do anything about it. So of course Sally got a bid to the sorority she ranked #1 and went to their bid day SOBBING. It was so bad and so unnerving to the other new members that the president of XYZ had to call one of my sisters to have her calm this girl down. So one of my sisters had to leave AXO's bid night to go to XYZ's bid night to talk to Sally. It's fine to be disappointed, but don't sit there and sob hysterically and refuse to participate in bid night -- you preferenced that sorority -- so don't cry. Sally ended up staying on as a new member in XYZ and actually initiated, but I give lots of credit to XYZ for dealing with her. I would have wanted to tell her "Fine, if you hate us so much, there's the door, don't let it hit your ass on the way out."

[xo_kathy]

Originally Posted by rumblytumbly

I'm not allowed to through formal rcruitment for 1 year but spring recruitment is informal...right?

No. By not not accepting a bid from a group you listed on your preference card, you cannot be involved in any sort of recruitment proccess for one calendar year. Unless U of A doesn't follow the normal NPC rules - which could be a possibility but I highly doubt it. I suggest you call you campus Panhellenic to be sure.

Originally Posted by IHeartUGA

It's my understanding that unless she actually signed a bid card she is free to participate in any form of recruitment that she wants. However, if she were to have actually SIGNED the bid card, only then would she have to wait one calendar year to participate in recruitment.

This cannot be true since with some houses you never actually sign your bid card. For instance, Chi Omega bid cards do not have a spot for signature. If she filled out her preference card after pref parties, that is the card that is binding. Since she received a bid from one of the houses she went to for pref, I would assume she did in fact fill out that card. (I'm not sure all schools make you actually sign that card, but filling it in and submitting it with ABC and XYZ listed means you will accept a bid from either of those houses if they offer you one).