School Daze question.

hellocutie · #1 08-07-2006, 11:22 AM

IMO, the white guys that are shown on those pictures as “acting black”, are just acting ignorant. Bows, if you believe that “acting black” is speaking incorrect English (not “white), wearing baggy clothes, and just being down right thuggish, this you are sadly mistaken. If a black guy only wears polo, j. crew, etc, does that mean he is “acting white” – no he is acting like a normal human being. If you see someone acting like someone those pictures, then they are not acting black – they are acting stupid.

hellocutie · #2 08-07-2006, 11:27 AM

F8nacn, you beat me to the point.

bows&toes · #3 08-07-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hellocutie

IMO, the white guys that are shown on those pictures as “acting black”, are just acting ignorant. Bows, if you believe that “acting black” is speaking incorrect English (not “white), wearing baggy clothes, and just being down right thuggish, this you are sadly mistaken. If a black guy only wears polo, j. crew, etc, does that mean he is “acting white” – no he is acting like a normal human being. If you see someone acting like someone those pictures, then they are not acting black – they are acting stupid.

I agree they are acting ignorant. Let me ask you this, where did that thuggish urban style originate from and which race (white or black) are usually ones dressed in that fashion? Be honest don't sugar coat it. I am not referring to the guys in your graduate program either.

hellocutie · #4 08-07-2006, 04:37 PM

I can’t tell you who invented the thug image because there have been different images of thugs throughout history (and of all races). But I can tell people of all races contribute and capitalize on the “urban thug image”. But you are right; you will see a black person in that style of clothing before you see someone of another race in the “urban thug” attire. Although the majority of the people who wear this attire are black, the majority of black (that I see) do not wear or even like the attire. Contrary to popular belief, all black people are not the same and do not like the same things. Quite frankly, I am (and know many black people) that are disgusted by the image and how it reflects me/them (because other can’t detach it from the entire race). Also contrary to popular belief, all white people are not the same. That urban thug image could easily be equated with the gothic image that many white people portray. Are you comfortable with that image? I would easily find a picture of a white gothic person and say that they are acting white (because the majority of people wearing that style are white).

Sorry for the book.

shinerbock · #5 08-07-2006, 05:12 PM

Listen guys, we've acknowledged that all black people don't act like thugs. We know that. Some are doctors and lawyers, and have no desire to be rappers or gangsters. However, the idea that the thuggish image in this country is not derived from popular black culture is complete bs. Was it influenced by others things? Probably, but it was popularized by black culture. Also, its not just the inner city thug black people who use incorrect grammar and wear baggy clothes with a sideways hat. Go to any college in the country, and you'll see that. Hell, go on some of the black GLO threads on here, and people talk like that. Now, I'm not going into why people do it, or whatever, its their choice. However, some of you are denying things that are simply fact.

DSTCHAOS · #6 08-07-2006, 08:03 PM

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popular black culture

Once again, since I stated this before in this thread, this is not necessarily the same thing as saying someone is "speaking or dressing black."

bows&toes · #7 08-07-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Once again, since I stated this before in this thread, this is not necessarily the same thing as saying someone is "speaking or dressing black."

I think most people in the real world would disagree with you..unfortunately.

DSTCHAOS · #8 08-07-2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bows&toes

I think most people in the real world would disagree with you..unfortunately.

Most people are idiots but I was hoping the people participating in this thread are not.

TheMan1906 · #9 08-29-2006, 02:26 AM

It was POPULARIZED by the media outlets! Those images of white guys are POPULARIZED by the media too, thats why you have places like JCREW, Banana Republic etc.! If the media never reported or showed these types of things, no one would REALLY care because it would only exist in our own little worlds.

bows&toes · #10 08-07-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hellocutie

I can’t tell you who invented the thug image because there have been different images of thugs throughout history (and of all races). But I can tell people of all races contribute and capitalize on the “urban thug image”. But you are right; you will see a black person in that style of clothing before you see someone of another race in the “urban thug” attire. Although the majority of the people who wear this attire are black, the majority of black (that I see) do not wear or even like the attire. Contrary to popular belief, all black people are not the same and do not like the same things. Quite frankly, I am (and know many black people) that are disgusted by the image and how it reflects me/them (because other can’t detach it from the entire race). Also contrary to popular belief, all white people are not the same. That urban thug image could easily be equated with the gothic image that many white people portray. Are you comfortable with that image? I would easily find a picture of a white gothic person and say that they are acting white (because the majority of people wearing that style are white).

Sorry for the book.

I agree to a point and appreciate the honest reply.

southernelle25 · #11 10-11-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bows&toes

I agree they are acting ignorant. Let me ask you this, where did that thuggish urban style originate from and which race (white or black) ...

Weren't the first to sport "thuggish urban style", such as gold chains and baggy pants, also the first gangsters? And weren't these men white Italian in origin?

shinerbock · #12 10-11-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by southernelle25

Weren't the first to sport "thuggish urban style", such as gold chains and baggy pants, also the first gangsters? And weren't these men white Italian in origin?

No.

southernelle25 · #13 10-11-2006, 01:03 PM

Nearly ever work written on early "gangster" culture in America begins with the lives and crimes of Italian, Irish, and even Jewish Americans. And though this may be politically incorrect, for many, “Italian-American” still brings to mind white men in Adidas track suits, gold chains, and leather sneakers.

macallan25 · #14 10-11-2006, 01:53 PM

The first Gangsters were wearing three piece suits and fedoras....not Adidas Track Suits and gold chains.

If you want to give someone credit for popularizing those types of clothing.....I would start by looking at Run DMC.

southernelle25 · #15 10-11-2006, 02:29 PM

Sadly, these early rappers glorified and popularized this aspect of Italian-American culture. The gold chains got bigger, the pants baggier.