Way to go Congress.

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

Greedy business? Corporations rarely pay minimum wage. Democrats always talk about how they wanna keep jobs in the country, and wanna keep small businesses going, yet they try to raise the minimum wage? Anybody who thinks that will work needs to spend a little more time with an economics book.

Well, if the Democrats had cared enough they could have voted it through, but they didn't. Why? Because it was a political decision. They wanna run on the prospect of raising the minimum wage in November, so if the Republicans pass it now, then not only do we get the estate tax cuts, but we also take away a democratic campaign issue. So if you're interested in blaming somebody, go blame the Democrats.

Also, about the salary raises, of course they'll raise their salary. They do it regularly to keep up with inflation. Most of these guys could be making a lot more than 150k in the private sector.

Your rants about Democrats are tired and if the congress as you say need raises in their salary to keep up w/ inflation why can't they see that working Americans need a wage raise also.

[shinerbock]

Because Americans don't work for the American government. It isn't the job of congress to up the pay of citizens. You can say my rants on democrats are "tired" but it was still the democrats who voted down your beloved minimum wage hike.

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

Because Americans don't work for the American government. It isn't the job of congress to up the pay of citizens. You can say my rants on democrats are "tired" but it was still the democrats who voted down your beloved minimum wage hike.

No it was the GOP that sabotaged it. Your conservative spin may work other places but not here.

[shinerbock]

The GOP sabotaged what? You act like its the job of the Republicans to raise the minimum wage. The raise is in the interest of some, and not others. You're acting as though its good for all society. If the Democrats really wanted, they could have just voted it through. But they didnt.

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

The GOP sabotaged what? You act like its the job of the Republicans to raise the minimum wage. The raise is in the interest of some, and not others. You're acting as though its good for all society. If the Democrats really wanted, they could have just voted it through. But they didnt.

Like I said you are full of it...so I quess the estate tax is good for all of Americans...and you never answer the question if Congress feels that they need a paid raise why do they feel hard working Americans should not get one. Eight years of GOP control has produce nothing but pain for working class Americans.

[shinerbock]

Except that unemployment is down, the economy has been booming, but yeah, those things suck. I did answer your questions about congressional pay raises. It is the job of congress to decide what the government needs to pay government workers. Minimum wage workers don't work for the government, so its not their responsibility to tell employers what to pay their employees.

The estate tax helps some, but who does it hurt? Those who arent getting the free money anymore? It is ridiculous in this country, a country which proclaims to help people make a better life for their children, that we penalize those who want to pass on the fruit of their efforts to their children. Estate taxes should end, who would that harm?

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

Except that unemployment is down, the economy has been booming, but yeah, those things suck. I did answer your questions about congressional pay raises. It is the job of congress to decide what the government needs to pay government workers. Minimum wage workers don't work for the government, so its not their responsibility to tell employers what to pay their employees.

The estate tax helps some, but who does it hurt? Those who arent getting the free money anymore? It is ridiculous in this country, a country which proclaims to help people make a better life for their children, that we penalize those who want to pass on the fruit of their efforts to their children. Estate taxes should end, who would that harm?

Americans who lost a good paying job under the Bush regime had to replace their lost job w/ a very low paying one not to mention that after a person's unemployment benefits run out they are no longer included in the numbers of the unemployed. So the numbers that claim unemployment is down is really just a mirage, which explains why there is a record number of bankruptcy claims as well as home foreclosures things that wouldn't be if true employment was really up. There is a record deficit, a bull shit war that can't be won (maybe b/c everyone who wanted the war are a bunch of chicken hearted wimps Rummy , Dick: who abused the deferment clause making sure he would never see any fighting and Bush who just quit his military service obligations.), the world's opinion of America is at an all time low all thanks to the GOP.

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

the economy has been booming

What part of America do you live in?

With the War on the wrong country, the USA is in extreme debt !!!!