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Old 06-27-2006, 03:22 AM
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You definitely have to go with Amaretto Sour. A martini or vodka tonic would be the only other exceptions, depending on the situation. The amaretto sour is extremely classy, tastes delightful and will be available everywhere. I would be taken aback if a lady I was doing business with ordered harder alcohol such as scotch, rum, whiskey, or gin. Wine has side effects such as adding a lot of color to the face, and causing tiredness.
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:44 AM
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You definitely have to go with Amaretto Sour. A martini or vodka tonic would be the only other exceptions, depending on the situation. The amaretto sour is extremely classy, tastes delightful and will be available everywhere. I would be taken aback if a lady I was doing business with ordered harder alcohol such as scotch, rum, whiskey, or gin. Wine has side effects such as adding a lot of color to the face, and causing tiredness.
The probelm with an Amaretto Sour is that some places really don't know how to make them, and they wind up tasting horrible. One of my favorite restraunts (before they closed ) always made them horrible, no matter who was at the bar...and I love Amaretto Sours, it's one of my favorite drinks
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:12 AM
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I would go with something simple like a Vodka Tonic or Red Wine. Red is an aquired taste, but very sophisticated.
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:04 AM
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You definitely have to go with Amaretto Sour. A martini or vodka tonic would be the only other exceptions, depending on the situation. The amaretto sour is extremely classy, tastes delightful and will be available everywhere. I would be taken aback if a lady I was doing business with ordered harder alcohol such as scotch, rum, whiskey, or gin. Wine has side effects such as adding a lot of color to the face, and causing tiredness.
Amaretto Sour reminds me of girls in college who couldn't stand the taste of liquor so they ordered something "yummy". Doesn't say sophisticated to me at all.

Avoid red wine because it often causes your teeth/lips to turn purple, and if you spill it on someone it's a mess to get out.

White wine is a good idea, but depending on the bar may be really cheap. Something like a Vodka Tonic is probably a good bet.

I myself am a fan of flavored vodka (preferably raspberry, but orange is more common) and club soda. It's a clear drink so spilling/staining isn't an issue, and the club soda helps to keep you a little more hydrated, IMO.
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:56 AM
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Amaretto Sour reminds me of girls in college who couldn't stand the taste of liquor so they ordered something "yummy". Doesn't say sophisticated to me at all.

Avoid red wine because it often causes your teeth/lips to turn purple, and if you spill it on someone it's a mess to get out.

White wine is a good idea, but depending on the bar may be really cheap. Something like a Vodka Tonic is probably a good bet.

I myself am a fan of flavored vodka (preferably raspberry, but orange is more common) and club soda. It's a clear drink so spilling/staining isn't an issue, and the club soda helps to keep you a little more hydrated, IMO.

At a dinner event either white or red is perfectly acceptable. What you choose to order for your meal should also play a role in what kind of wine you choose to indulge in. Pre-dinner should be your time for cocktails. A dry martini with a twist is always a good choice, as is gin.

SDbeta...you say you would be taken back if a lady ordered hard liquor, yet you said to order a martini at dinner? 1.) I wouldn't advise ordering a martini at the dinner table. 2.) It doesn't get much harder than a martini straight up.....unless you are ordering something along the lines of vodka rocks or whiskey/scotch "neat".
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:48 PM
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Amaretto Sour reminds me of girls in college who couldn't stand the taste of liquor so they ordered something "yummy". Doesn't say sophisticated to me at all.
So this doesn't say "sophisticated", but Stoli Razz does? I don't quite follow - I think you're making a poor association here.

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Avoid red wine because it often causes your teeth/lips to turn purple, and if you spill it on someone it's a mess to get out.

White wine is a good idea, but depending on the bar may be really cheap. Something like a Vodka Tonic is probably a good bet.
Red wine is fine - it can turn teeth/lips red, but not necessarily on the first glass, and if there is ANYTHING available to clean the mouth (water, food) then you'll be fine. Spilling should not be a worry, if you're at all on your game and drinking in moderation.

I don't know how many business dinners of this type you've attended, but quite a few deals and discussions in my particular field are done over red wine - being able to order or discuss wine selection is a decent skill to acquire (and will prevent you from being stuck with the 'cheap' white - I'm assuming these meetings aren't at 'cheap white wine' bars).

If nothing else, be able to pronounce "beaujolais" . . .

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I myself am a fan of flavored vodka (preferably raspberry, but orange is more common) and club soda. It's a clear drink so spilling/staining isn't an issue, and the club soda helps to keep you a little more hydrated, IMO.
Carbonated beverages actually increase the absorption of alcohol in the stomach, getting it into the blood faster - hydration would not be my first concern here.

As far as what to order, many of the answers are quite good, but valkyrie and Rudey have pretty much summed it up - first, order whatever you enjoy and order it with confidence, and second know your audience and improve your knowledge of liquors, cordials and apertifs, and wine . . . sometimes, unfortunately, you just won't want to be the one drinking rum among clients who are splitting an expensive bottle.
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Old 06-27-2006, 01:13 PM
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I'd drink hard liquor over wine if I were given the choice. Then again, in my profession, so would everyone else.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:01 PM
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Order them a madori sour and drop roofies in them. That'll get you in on some bizness!



Oh wait.

Oh what?


Oh...not the kind of bizness you were looking for? Oh ok. Ummm...

get them some Kool Aid and sprinkle some crack in that shit then MANG
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Old 07-30-2006, 06:42 PM
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I work in hi-tech, too, and do a lot of international shows. Do not order a glass of champagne or champagne drink. You will look like a little girl. It's a different story if your event director orders a bottle.

A vodka drink, martini or wine is fine. Try a flavored coffee at dessert, if you would like. If you're in Spain, give the sangria a whirl. And when in Rome, do as the Romans do. You might mimic another colleague and order the same drink as s/he. This will clue you in to when it is ok to drink pina coladas (Rio) or beer (Germany). Avoid the umbrella drinks and mudslides unless you have a cue from your director to partake in those froofy drinks because s/he is, too.

As mentioned, don't overdo it. You still have a 7 AM call time the next morning and have to be on the floor and presentable for the next 12 hours. I tend to stick to a glass of red wine or order a diet coke or sparkling water when I'm on travel. To me, a show is not the time to relax with drinks after a long day-- because the next day of the show is going to be even harder if I do.
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Old 06-28-2006, 11:16 AM
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So this doesn't say "sophisticated", but Stoli Razz does? I don't quite follow - I think you're making a poor association here.
I'm not saying Stoli Razz does. They were separate paragraphs. I was commenting that Amaretto Sour is not what I considered sophisticated. The paragraph about my drink preference was just that - what I prefer. However I will say I think Grey Goose Orange and soda sounds more sophisticated than an Amaretto Sour when someone asks you what you are drinking.

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Red wine is fine - it can turn teeth/lips red, but not necessarily on the first glass, and if there is ANYTHING available to clean the mouth (water, food) then you'll be fine. Spilling should not be a worry, if you're at all on your game and drinking in moderation.
Probably really depends on you. I drink more than one glass with dinner/water whatever and you can definitely see it on my lips and teeth. My best friend is the same way. My husband on the other hand could drink a bottle with nothing else and you'd never know it (His skin is darker and his teeth more yellow so perhaps that's why). So if I was in the situation I wouldn't be "fine". Also, just because you are drinking in moderation and "on your game" doesn't mean that accidents don't happen. You'll look like much more of an ass with red wine on your blouse than white.

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I don't know how many business dinners of this type you've attended, but quite a few deals and discussions in my particular field are done over red wine
I don't attend too many business dinners, but my husband does all the time. His boss is a wine aficianado so takes care of all the ordering and it is often red. Of course I know many deals are made over red wine

After re-reading the original post it seems these are dinners, but when she mentioned what to order I assumed a bottle of wine at the table wasn't an option. I was thinking it was more of a bar situation.

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If nothing else, be able to pronounce "beaujolais" . . .
Of course, if you've never had beaujolais then it's probably not a good idea to order it so knowing how to pronounce it might be a moot point.
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Old 06-28-2006, 12:48 PM
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All red wine specifics aside (obv I'm more in the boat of your husband) . . .

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I don't attend too many business dinners, but my husband does all the time. His boss is a wine aficianado so takes care of all the ordering and it is often red. Of course I know many deals are made over red wine

After re-reading the original post it seems these are dinners, but when she mentioned what to order I assumed a bottle of wine at the table wasn't an option. I was thinking it was more of a bar situation.
Fair enough - my point was more in line w/ the second paragraph than the first. No need to roll your eyes - I was asking whether you had much experience, or whether your field is different from mine . . . I'm not lampooning your intelligence or anything, so leave the guard down.

In reality, however, wine is still a perfectly proper choice in a bar situation without dinner. Assuming your business meeting occurs in a relatively nice bar, it should have enough of a wine menu to take care of what you need by the glass, or you can split the bottle.

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Of course, if you've never had beaujolais then it's probably not a good idea to order it so knowing how to pronounce it might be a moot point.
I think it was clear that I was using this as an example of attaining a little bit of knowledge, rather than feeling that was the specific knowledge to have. You're of course correct, but that's exactly my point - put in the effort to learn, and you'll be both far more comfortable in the situation and less likely to commit a faux pas.

Comfort is incredibly important, and comes with knowledge and experience.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:17 PM
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Amaretto Sour reminds me of girls in college who couldn't stand the taste of liquor so they ordered something "yummy". Doesn't say sophisticated to me at all.
I had the same thought when I read sdbeta1's post. Amaretto Sours, along with Midori Sours, are what I usually suggest for my sisters who are turning 21 and going to the bar for the first time and don't know what they might like.
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:54 PM
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I had the same thought when I read sdbeta1's post. Amaretto Sours, along with Midori Sours, are what I usually suggest for my sisters who are turning 21 and going to the bar for the first time and don't know what they might like.
I must ask....do you really have sisters that have never had a mix drink before 21?

Maybe it's because I have two friends that are bartenders and I'm usedot having mixed drinks and shots and the whole nine yards while hanging out in a house, but not a single one of my friends waited till 21 till they had thier first mixed drink,...
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I must ask....do you really have sisters that have never had a mix drink before 21?

Maybe it's because I have two friends that are bartenders and I'm usedot having mixed drinks and shots and the whole nine yards while hanging out in a house, but not a single one of my friends waited till 21 till they had thier first mixed drink,...
Um, let me just put it this way. They just aren't sure of what to order at the bar, cuz it's not like they can order jungle juice.
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Um, let me just put it this way. They just aren't sure of what to order at the bar, cuz it's not like they can order jungle juice.
I take it ya'll had a Trashcan Punch/$5 all night house.
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