Clinton Whitewashed By Media Just Like African-Americans

[Poplife]

Doggy,

I was able to skim your post from my grandmother's house yesterday, but the fact that she only has one phone line forced me to prioritize.

I'm sorry if you are having trouble understanding me and that you feel I'm repetitive. But like I say, Chinese and Korean sound the same when you don't speak either language.

And yes, some people do think that you can only debate on the information given. I, however, feel that ANY information that is known to either party is eligible to be used. Hey, look at the presidential debates. Besides, this isn't a debate to me. It's a typical dinner conversation at my house.

I also never stated that individual Black Republicans do not help Blacks.

Why did you ask me what Black Republicans did I know that were creating wealth for anyone else, and then state that BRs 'close the lid' behind them? No you did not SAY that. Still, asking/saying those things makes what you are thinking obvious.

Also, it doesn't matter what your registration is, if you vote Rep, then you're Rep.

Oh really? Well, the KKK believes that blacks should only be with blacks. So do many black people. Are they in with the KKK? It's called mutual agreement on select subjects. Come on now, that's basic!

Working class relates to those whose income comes from working rather than investments as the major source of income. But if you and your family are independently wealthy, more power to you.

Nice try, but you are slightly off.

The technical term for 'working class' is people who work for a salary/wages. However when spoken of in social terms it doesn't translate into that idea. The food chain goes as follows (from dirt poor on up).

Lower Class (Trailer park, ghetto)

Lower Middle Class (contains some Blue Collar types like postal workers and trash men)

Middle Middle Class (contains much of the Blue Collar/Working Class folks, but only the slightly more educated types like electricians and public school teachers)

Upper Middle Class (Doctors, lawyers unrelated to a firm, college professors, etc.)

Upper Class (the Michael Douglas in 'Wall Street', the Banks' family from Fresh Prince, the Cosby family. most of the new "money folks" are in this bracket.)

Old Money (basically the folks you mentioned earlier)

Here's a hint for your understanding. Working class people work to provide an income. Upper Middle Class - Upper Class people work to MAINTAIN an income (there is a difference there). Old money folks consider work consulting with their accountants, managers, and other folks that are watching the family business/investments. While at working I one met a millionaire investment banker who worked 17 hours a day. Is he working class? I think not.

I told my family about this conversation while talking about Bush over turkey and collard greens. My dad suggested you should take a peak at "People Like Us: Class in America", which is one of our favorite PBS shows. And I don't say that to be sarcastic. If class interests you peep their site on www.pbs.org

Tell me what you think.

If anyone is familiar with your posts, you have always come across as anti-Korean and Hispanic. Down with the masses, buy Black, wear an afro-centric hairstyle, eff the system person. Now, all of a sudden, you have Multi-cultural friends, defender of the opressed minority, "I'm a get mine, if you 're not successful you must be lazy", type of person. One minute you make it seem as if your family will go hungry because Black folks aint got the good sense to buy Black, next minute, your whole family and errbody Black you know are rich as hell.

I won't deny that I can come across as anti-whatever. But you have to realize that I only seem that way to the people that a) Cannot see the issues at hand facing blacks b) REFUSE to see the issues at hand facing blacks or c) Are not in even in a place where they can TRY and see the issues at hand facing blacks.

Buy black? Yes. Wear an afro? If you want to. 'Eff' the system? Sort of. Don't take how it tries to treat you to heart, but do learn how to use it to your advantage. I am not the defender for anything. Defenders make their subject weaker, but teachers make them strong.

BTW, I've ALWAYS had multicultural friends. I get teased for collecting Asian Textiles and watching the Joy Luck Club everyday. People call me a sell out because I want to live in France or Italy. I get questioned about the amount of time I spend at the downtown ethnic arts festivals and gatherings. So?

I assure, you that it is possible to separate the politics from the people. It IS possible to go out with Asian, Arab, and Hispanic friends and enjoy them as individuals and not think if them as a mass. All my friends, even my Asian ones , are fully aware of my views. Many of them respect me for it. In the words of my friend Chung: "You not racists. You love black people. I love Chinese people. What's wrong with loving yourself? What's wrong with wanting to see your people go high?"

I'm dramatic. I must be to have you believe my family was really losing out because people didn't want to deal with their own kind. To clear things up let me say this, the issue with blacks not buying blacks hurt our hearts more than our wallets. The store was an investment for my father, not a needed source of income.

Yes, I know a lot of Blacks who are rich. But I know more who are not. The sad fact is, the rich blacks keep getting richer while the poor blacks cover their ears to advice and drown in their own self-pity and debt.

BTW, you never addressed the gist of my response. Instead, you resorted to demagougery and obfuscation (trademarks of the Republican platform) Complain about the 10 people cheating welfare for $20k/yr, when corporate welfare is in the billions. Again, either I'm confused or either you do not know how to properly provide a cogent foundation for a proper debate.

I reply to what interests me and if that is confusing than please accept my profound apologies. However, I don't feel obligated by your 'debate' rules.


Peace, Happiness, and Many Thanks for the Intellectual
Intercourse...I was hesitant at first but it didn't hurt a bit. Maybe I'll come back for more.