The REAL Housewifes of Orange County

[HBADPi]

I knew Bethenny looked familiar! I just couldnt figure out where I recognized her from..thanks Sailorgirl!

I think its interesting to see some of the differences on how they spend their money. Most of the OC women's kids didnt really do much with their lives, went to public school even though they had money, and they would rather give them new cars than encourage college. Whereas all the NYC housewive's kids go to private school or they have mentioned how important education is.

Most OC women had work done to themselves, but it seems the NYC women havent.

I'm sure there are other difference but those were the 2 that came to mind. Having grown up on the east coast and currently living OC, those differences hold true I think in the general population so I find it fascinating.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by HBADPi

I think its interesting to see some of the differences on how they spend their money. Most of the OC women's kids didnt really do much with their lives, went to public school even though they had money, and they would rather give them new cars than encourage college. Whereas all the NYC housewive's kids go to private school or they have mentioned how important education is.

How do you figure that? I'm curious (and i dont mean it to be sarcastic, i'm truly interested). What's the difference between private vs public school? Just because you go to a public school doesn't mean you are less likely to go to college.

All the NYC women have children that are 15 and below, so you can't say all those kids will go to college. True there are some OC kids who didn't go to college, but that happens everywhere. Brianna is in school, so is Michael. Shane aspires to be a baseball player, and from what it seems like he's doing pretty well. Cara is in school (so who cares that she didn't get accepted to USC or UCLA? That doesn't negate the fact that's she going to a pretty darn good school). I'm pretty sure Josh said something about going to college, and aren't Lauri's step-kids barely out of high school? I know McKenzie is younger than Ashley.

I do agree that the OC and NYC women think of money in different ways. The OC women are more "materialistic"--they want to buy expensive things, purses, cars, clothes, boobs---while the NYC women use money to hang over people's heads.

I kinda disagree with you all saying that the NYC women care more about charity, I think the only one that truly cares about charity is Bethenny. Going to charity and fundraiser events is just an opportunity to climb the social ladder. I honestly respect people more if they decided not to give to charity rather to the people who give to charity so they can have a "look at me, I gave 1 million to so-and-so charity so now i'm popular, love me cause now i can have friends and parties to go to and i'm not a wallflower anymore" attitude.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by epchick

How do you figure that? I'm curious (and i dont mean it to be sarcastic, i'm truly interested). What's the difference between private vs public school? Just because you go to a public school doesn't mean you are less likely to go to college.

All the NYC women have children that are 15 and below, so you can't say all those kids will go to college. True there are some OC kids who didn't go to college, but that happens everywhere. Brianna is in school, so is Michael. Shane aspires to be a baseball player, and from what it seems like he's doing pretty well. Cara is in school (so who cares that she didn't get accepted to USC or UCLA? That doesn't negate the fact that's she going to a pretty darn good school). I'm pretty sure Josh said something about going to college, and aren't Lauri's step-kids barely out of high school? I know McKenzie is younger than Ashley.

I do agree that the OC and NYC women think of money in different ways. The OC women are more "materialistic"--they want to buy expensive things, purses, cars, clothes, boobs---while the NYC women use money to hang over people's heads.

I kinda disagree with you all saying that the NYC women care more about charity, I think the only one that truly cares about charity is Bethenny. Going to charity and fundraiser events is just an opportunity to climb the social ladder. I honestly respect people more if they decided not to give to charity rather to the people who give to charity so they can have a "look at me, I gave 1 million to so-and-so charity so now i'm popular, love me cause now i can have friends and parties to go to and i'm not a wallflower anymore" attitude.

Yeah, there are a lot of people who would say that Cal is a better school than UCLA, and MOST would say that it's better than USC. I'm amazed that she got in to Cal but was rejected by USC.

I had the same thought as you regarding the NY women's charity events. I don't think they go to them because they believe in the charity - they go to them because they're social events and things that Society go to.

One thing goes for both of these shows' women: they may have all the money in the world, but most of them look and act like trash. Bethanny and LuAnn in NY look nice and are OK, but the OC women look like they're trying to desperately recapture their 20s, and some of the NYC women have way outdated and unflattering hair. And most of them prove that money doesn't buy class.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by HBADPi

I think its interesting to see some of the differences on how they spend their money. Most of the OC women's kids didnt really do much with their lives, went to public school even though they had money, and they would rather give them new cars than encourage college. Whereas all the NYC housewive's kids go to private school or they have mentioned how important education is.

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

I had the same thought as you regarding the NY women's charity events. I don't think they go to them because they believe in the charity - they go to them because they're social events and things that Society go to.

One thing goes for both of these shows' women: they may have all the money in the world, but most of them look and act like trash. ... And most of them prove that money doesn't buy class.

I'm pretty sure the private school thing (and not just ANY private school, but the ones that require you to be on waiting lists from conception) is just as much a Society thing as attending charity events. Because private schools are just as dime a dozen asa public schools but only a portion of them mean anything when it comes to college admissions. Not that i'm an expert, but i've met many of private school grads who probably would've fared the same in public school.

And in my experience, private schools get reps under three categories - how whore-y the girls are, how awesome the sports teams are, or how much money you need to get in. Which is essentially what colleges do. private HS leads into private college which lead into more private circles, social, professional or otherwise.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by tld221

I'm pretty sure the private school thing (and not just ANY private school, but the ones that require you to be on waiting lists from conception) is just as much a Society thing as attending charity events. Because private schools are just as dime a dozen asa public schools but only a portion of them mean anything when it comes to college admissions. Not that i'm an expert, but i've met many of private school grads who probably would've fared the same in public school.

And in my experience, private schools get reps under three categories - how whore-y the girls are, how awesome the sports teams are, or how much money you need to get in. Which is essentially what colleges do. private HS leads into private college which lead into more private circles, social, professional or otherwise.

It's so silly, because a good portion of kids at private universities went to public high schools, and a lot of kids from public high schools go on to private colleges. Myself being one. Maybe the public schools close to where these women live in NYC are not quality schools? If that's the case, I get it. But I really don't understand why most people spend so much money putting their kids in a private, "elite" kindegarten or nursery school.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

...they go to them because they're social events and things that Society go to.

One thing goes for both of these shows' women: they may have all the money in the world, but most of them look and act like trash. Bethanny and LuAnn in NY look nice and are OK, but the OC women look like they're trying to desperately recapture their 20s, and some of the NYC women have way outdated and unflattering hair. And most of them prove that money doesn't buy class.

Bingo.

[Benzgirl]

One of the things I like about the NYC women is they do so much charity work. It's part of the social scene that Jill mentions. Almost all of the parties they attend are benefits and fund raisers. I think the only parties we saw the OC women attend were at the Playboy Mansion or by someone's pool. I don't ever remember the OC women mentioning raising money for Charity.

I agree with HBADPi's take on education. I think the only OC kid who though it was important was Vicky's daughter. Vicky's son went to Colorado to study beer and women. Jeanna's boys are interested only in baseball (Cara started at Berkley in January because she wasn't accepted to USC and UCLA). Lauri's kids barely finished high school (I'm not sure about Josh); her step-kids didn't go to college either. Tammy's youngest daughter wanted to go to school, but didn't have a brain in her head; the oldest wanted to get tatoos and train pitbulls. Tamara's son is, well, duhhhhh!

I think the NYC women dress much classier (exception is Ramona), and yes Ramona and Alex need to do something with their hair. The OC women run around in jeans and skimpy tops with their Double Dees hanging out. I'm sure the NYC women have had some work done, it's just more discrete and natural, where the viewer doesn't say, "oh my God, her face doesn't move when she smiles"

Just my opinion.

[Fawn Liebowitz]

Both Ramona and Alex have bad hair and questionable teeth. If they're so concerned about looks, how could they overlook those two things?

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by Fawn Liebowitz

Both Ramona and Alex have bad hair and questionable teeth. If they're so concerned about looks, how could they overlook those two things?

I had to laugh when Alex mentioned she is in visual design for Victoria Secret Beauty. A long time ago, I worked for a different division of The Limited and we interacted with Visual Designers and Visual Merchandisers all of the time. It's not that elite of a position. Unless she is a VP, it's not as glamerous as it sounds -- the do Floor Sets.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

I had to laugh when Alex mentioned she is in visual design for Victoria Secret Beauty. A long time ago, I worked for a different division of The Limited and we interacted with Visual Designers and Visual Merchandisers all of the time. It's not that elite of a position. Unless she is a VP, it's not as glamerous as it sounds -- the do Floor Sets.

LOL i thought about this too... Alex, IMO, seems like the random chick who "got lucky" by marrying rich.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

... But I really don't understand why most people spend so much money putting their kids in a private, "elite" kindegarten or nursery school.

Tracking and social status.

[epchick]

Why am I still watching this trainwreck?????? AAAHHHHH!!!

All I know is that I <3 Bethenny.

Alex REALLY needs to comb her hair, and stop taking Simon everywhere. Really, a girl's night out means no boys allowed! I seriously lol'd when Simon and Alex were talking about going to Jill/Bethenny's girls night out and then Simon said "well, it would be awkward if I DIDN'T go" no, just because Bethenny was kind enough to allow you to come doesn't mean you have to!

LuAnn annoys me with the "omg you just called me by my first name in front of the driver. Its Mrs. De Lesseps to him." Like Bethenny said, get over yourself! But I guess when you are a countess you expect that level of respect.

Ramona is still the TRASHIEST person ever! Ok, I understand none of the women were too pleased that Simon went to the girl's night, but to jump down Alex's throat the minute she walks in is unbelievable. Especially since you've met her like once before. And the conversation they had about class & then Ramona abruptly gets up and leaves to go to a bar to have a true girls night out. WOW!!

[tld221]

Originally Posted by epchick

Why am I still watching this trainwreck?????? AAAHHHHH!!!

All I know is that I <3 Bethenny.

Alex REALLY needs to comb her hair, and stop taking Simon everywhere. Really, a girl's night out means no boys allowed! I seriously lol'd when Simon and Alex were talking about going to Jill/Bethenny's girls night out and then Simon said "well, it would be awkward if I DIDN'T go" no, just because Bethenny was kind enough to allow you to come doesn't mean you have to!

LuAnn annoys me with the "omg you just called me by my first name in front of the driver. Its Mrs. De Lesseps to him." Like Bethenny said, get over yourself! But I guess when you are a countess you expect that level of respect.

Ramona is still the TRASHIEST person ever! Ok, I understand none of the women were too pleased that Simon went to the girl's night, but to jump down Alex's throat the minute she walks in is unbelievable. Especially since you've met her like once before. And the conversation they had about class & then Ramona abruptly gets up and leaves to go to a bar to have a true girls night out. WOW!!

is THAT what that was about?! i'm watching the rerun just to see what i missed the first time around, and all i can say is b*tch please! yeah, just get over yourself. she is a countess by MARRIAGE. whatever.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by tld221

is THAT what that was about?! i'm watching the rerun just to see what i missed the first time around, and all i can say is b*tch please! yeah, just get over yourself. she is a countess by MARRIAGE. whatever.

Yes! And then she got upset at Bethenny because Bethenny didn't say "Mrs." correctly.

[ZTAMich]

Reunion Show is funny These ladies are a trainwreck...