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Old 05-09-2005, 12:53 PM
DolphinChicaDDD DolphinChicaDDD is offline
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Did everyone get thier Trident? There is a blurb about the consititution in there. Apparently it wasn't the orginal constitution, but rather part of a handwritten charter. EO wasn't successful in securing it.
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Old 05-09-2005, 06:00 PM
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I was just reading up on that. That whole article is pretty interesting. It's a shame that EO didn't secure the document though
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Old 05-09-2005, 09:56 PM
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Exclamation 1888 Constitution

I saw that in The Trident too, and I’m glad this was brought up again because I’ve actually been in contact with the winning eBay bidder. It drove me crazy not knowing what was going on, so I just emailed him via his eBay user name. He wrote me back once or twice, then a few weeks later, he sent me the following AMAZING email. I just so wish I were a rich alumna so I could buy this from him and donate it to National! BTW, he said he was in contact with a couple of Tri-Delts, so... have any of you been emailing him too?



“This is what I have discovered about the Tri-Delta document so far;

It would appear that this is indeed a handwritten document from the early days of Tri-Delta although it does not appear to be the Alpha Chapter’s copy of the constitution. What I have seems to be a copy provided to the Epsilon Chapter at Knox around August of 1889. What this means is that although this is not the original constitution it is certainly one of the first and evidently one of the only remaining handwritten copies in existence, allow me to explain.

The original Tri-Delta constitution was revised soon after your founding (Thanksgiving Eve, 1888) to incorporate the suggestions of Etta Mae Budd. Miss Budd, as you may recall, was an Iowa State Alumna and a member of the local organization U.D.T. and had intentions of spreading her organization as a national all over the world. She had already been in contact with groups at a number of colleges, Simpson included where a group by the name of L.F.V. (Lovers of Fun and Victory) had already pledged itself to join her society. She had moved to Boston and came across one of Alpha’s early initiates, Josephine Centre (Jan, 1889), at the local Y.W.C.A. where she was boarding and requested an interview with the Tri-Delta leadership. Upon meeting with your Founders she entered discussions with them to see if they would be interested in affiliating with her organization. The Tri-Deltas evidently were able to convince Miss Budd that a coalition would be good but the identity of the group would remain Tri-Delta although some things in the constitution of Miss Budd’s society were incorporated in that of Tri-Delta, notably those portions referring to the Commissioner of Education, the Provinces, and the arrangement for Chapters in Canada and England (A Detailed Record of Delta Delta Delta 1888-1931, B.L. Priddy, p.28).

The Constitution that I have has already incorporated these features from Miss Budd’s Society. By dating to these conversations I feel that this document can be shown to have been written between January 1889, March, 1889 (Miss Budd’s initiation into Tri-Delta), and August, 1889 which was the date of the installation of the Epsilon Chapter at Knox College. The original By-laws required that each initiate sign the document (Article 24 of the Constitution of Delta Delta Delta) and so my book actually has the signatures of six of the nine charter members of the chapter. This discrepancy may be due to the graduation of members, disassociation, or lack of attendance at the initiation. It is interesting to note that although the charter was granted in the fall of 1889 the chapter has always claimed its installation date as Thanksgiving Eve, 1889.

At any rate this book served as the Constitution for the chapter for the next twenty one years and was faithfully updated, by hand in its entirety, to reflect the revisions of the first, national Tri-Delta convention in Galesburg 1893, and the fifth convention in Boston 1902. In other words there are three complete, handwritten versions of the constitution in this book reflecting the changes, among many areas, in your government structure, officer roles, degrees, and Alumnae associations (alliances). It also shows the subtle changes in the “Aim” of Delta Delta Delta. In spite of what your published histories may have taught you, i.e. “the Aim of the Fraternity as written by its founders has remained unchanged” (A Detailed Record of Delta Delta Delta 1888-1931, B.L. Priddy, p.18), there have indeed been substantive changes made to this statement from the earliest constitution.

It is truly amazing to see the actual signatures of such distinguished Tri-Deltas as Almedia Laurson (a past grand President) and R. Louise Fitch (editor of The Trident, and another past Grand President), along with 178 other Tri-deltas from Epsilon Chapter, too numerous to mention. These signatures are positioned after each revision and have, in some instances, class year designations and/or initiation dates. The writing of the actual constitution portions of the documents is not attributed to any specific scribe nor is it signed but three different hands have handled the task of rewriting the whole document after each revision. I find it interesting that there seems to be no mention of these handwritten copies of your Constitution anywhere. In fact the only reference I have found indicates that “during the early history of the Fraternity, the constitution was supplied the members and chapters in typewritten copies only.” (A Detailed Record of Delta Delta Delta 1888-1931, B.L. Priddy, p.89). It goes on to further state that a printed constitution was issued in 1897 and then subsequently reprinted after every convention. Based on this statement it would seem that the ladies of Epsilon Chapter took it upon themselves to preserve and protect this obviously cherished bit of their history.

The book itself is in remarkable condition, considering it is over 100 years old, with the writings and signatures being crisp and clear. You can almost see the personalities of the Tri-Deltas in the way they signed their names with flourishes and embellishments at what must have been one of the most exciting moments of their lives, their initiation into your Order.

I will at some point be transcribing the entire document (I don’t wish to have it photocopied due to its fragility) and if you continue to have an interest in it, I will be happy to provide you with periodic updates. Hopefully this will serve two purposes; first you will see that I have a genuine scholarly interest in the document and; second, that you, who have been among the most courteous of all the people who have contacted me, can gain in knowledge of your organization’s history. Incidentally, not only have Tri-Deltas been contacting me, a number of collectors have been offering astonishing amounts for this document. Who would have known! At any rate just let me know if you would like to receive further information.



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Old 05-09-2005, 10:46 PM
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Wow, this is all news to me. Then again, I do not own a copy of the History of Delta Delta Delta. Can anyone vouch for this???

Thank you DeltaDawn for the information! EO definitely contacted him, but I'm not sure if anyone on GC, Tri Delta or not, has ever contacted him. Is there a fat chance that he will give it to EO???
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:53 PM
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Angry

ewww somethin about this just erks me!
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Old 05-11-2005, 09:08 PM
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I think this irks everyone! Or at least all DDDs!!! Regarding whether he's going to donate the Constitution: in the very first email I sent, I asked if the buyer was a Tri-Delt and whether she would be donating it to EO. He (his name is apparently Robert) responded that men can't pledge Tri Delta, and also that neither his wife nor his daughters are Tri-Delts. He said he just has "an avid interest in historical fraternal memorabilia." So I have zero idea what his intentions are. Plus I've heard nothing more from him since, even though I specifically (and very courteously) asked to be sent further information. As far as his "footnotes" for A Detailed Record, I did check, and the references match. I own the book and had read through it a long time ago, but I've never studied it like I was doing a dissertation. !!!
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:37 PM
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Wow, this is all news to me. Then again, I do not own a copy of the History of Delta Delta Delta. Can anyone vouch for this???
It all sounds kosher. Basically everything he wrote was in the welcome speech Past President Sarah Lindsay told us at our baquent (the one with family and friends) so I don't think he is actually in possesstion of anything that is "secret." Although I would like to know what the "changes" of the aim (I'm assuming he means the Purpose) have been.

It does bother me that someone would like to "collect" these things- anything Greek related that isn't from your orgs. While I think other badges are gorgeous, they don't mean anything to them so I have nothing to gain from "owning" them.
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Old 05-13-2005, 09:02 AM
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Exactly what I was thinking. Also, I hate how he makes it seem like he knows so much more than us. Hello, this is OUR ORG! Ugh.
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:36 PM
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any follow up

I was just looking through old posts and found this one. I am from Epsilon Chapter and was wondering if anyone ever found out any more information.

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Old 01-12-2006, 12:47 AM
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First of all Happy New Year!!! I hope everybody had a nice holiday and received all the Christmas goodies they surely deserved I was surprised to see this post about the constitution. I figured it was a dead topic by now but since you asked, the LOSER did contact me again about the book. He wanted to see if I wanted to buy it for $2500 dollars. I mean I know its priceless but I could never afford that, not even for Tri Delt. I didn't even bother replying but if your chapter ever had a fundraiser to bring your constitution back home you can count me in for $50 Lots of love, Dawn
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