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Originally posted by YAHSHUA's son
KING OF KINGS LORD OF LORDS MASTER OF MASTERS PRESIDENT OF PRESIDENTS LEADER OF LEADERS I WAS REFERING TO THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD YAHSHUA [my mistake, I didn't quite make that connection, thanks for clarification.]
DEATH IS A RESULT OF WAR [as night follows day, 5 follows 4 etc., thanks Einstein]
AND THAT IS A DECISION THAT PRESIDENTS MAKE [operative word here PRESIDENT not God, he is not the first to engage the country in war, nor will he be the last, but let us TRULY PRAY, he will be the ONLY to blame it on God!!!]
RIGHT OR WRONG HE WILL ANSWER FOR HIS DECISION [again, see purpose of the thread, if you FULLY believe God told him to do it, since he talks to God and we don't, then you should've not included this anyway]
THE BOOK OF REVELATION SPEAKS OF WAR IN THE FUTURE AND IF THAT BOOK IS TRUE PROPHECY THEIR WILL BE A LOT MORE KILLING GOING ON [yes, and the engagers are NOT seen as the good guys just fyi]
THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN A VERY DEADLY PLACE [so if you see people pulled over for speeding and you're already exceeding the limit, are you going to say, well, that's a consequence when you drive, and then proceed to speed up?! NO!!!! you're going to proceed with caution, and drive and get to where you need to be doing your best to not incur danger, i.e,. come up with a NEW PLAN?! Is that how it works? YES the world is "deadly" but why add to the "deadliness" by engaging in war unnecessarily?! Why not do something to make it a little "less" deadly?]
BUT WE ARE SO SPOILED IN AMERICA WE DONT WANT TO EVEN THINK ABOUT KILLING A COW TO EAT THAT PHILLY CHEESE STEAK [what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?! O I get it VEGETARIANS TALKED TO GOD AND TOLD HIM TO TELL bush TO START THE WAR!]
WHY DO WE NEED MILITARY AND POLICE? WELL ASK MR. HOROWITZ WHO LOSS HIS WIFE TO SOME LUNATIC. [Again, no one is negating the need for law enformecent/military, we are negating the fact that GOD told bush to start a war. Let's also ask Mr. Horowitz about the woman he was defending ACCUSED OF KILLING HER HUSBAND!!! Maybe he paid her off to take care of some business for him!]
GOD WILL USE ARMIES TO DO HIS WILL AS WELL AS HURRICANES AND EARTHQUAKES [no no it's bush who will use armies to do his will, honey, God doesn't NEED armies BECAUSE he has hurricanes, earthquakes tornadoes etc.!!]
THE REAL WAR IS IN YOUR BODY...IT CAN BE WON WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT YAHSHUA SENT 2000 YEARS AGO. [WHAT?! there is a spiritual war going on for sure, but you can't deny the grim reality of the physical war going on in the world, or why not ASK, since you like questioning so much, the mother of one of the 19 year old boys who was killed]
AND ONLY THEN WILL YOU HAVE PEACE AND JOY [are you insinuating I have not encountered the Holy Spirit?! those are STRONG accusations to throw given you know NOTHING about me save a few messages I typed on this board. Seems to me as if YOU'RE the one who isn't familiar with God's will.]
HATE IS MURDER [uhhhh, ok.]
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AGAIN!!! I'm not sure from wince your information is derived, but MY BIBLE tells me we have choice, everything we do is NOT sanctioned by God, hence THAT is why we have a Heaven and a Hell. Heaven is for those who live life righteously confess God sent his only begotten Son to die for our Sins and Repent for our wrongoing, Hell is for those who don't, and follow their wills instead of God's. Stop contradicting yourself, initially you said "IF HE AINT TALKING TO YOU IT AINT NOBODY FAULT BUT YOURS
HUMBLE YOURSELVES PRIDEFUL ONES AND MAYBE YOUR SPIRITUAL EARS WILL OPEN." and then you came back and said "RIGHT OR WRONG HE WILL ANSWER FOR HIS DECISION." OK, well just in case if you didn't actually LOOK at the title of this thread, it is named ""God told me to do it" Claims bush" now I don't think anyone here is negating the fact that bush, and all of us for that matter can talk to God, however, what we ARE in fact negating is the fact that GOD told bush to kill all of those people, which based on your last post appears to be an issue with which you agree, or at least are not certain one way or another! so the buck stops here, well it can, you can either continue to contradict yourself, or admit to yourself that you're an idiot for trying to defend bush on this one and shut up [well stop replying at least].
In addition, you spoke of King Nebuchadnez'zar which is in the Book of Daniel, by the way, Daniel's gift was that he can interpret dreams, and Daniel interpreted King Nebuchadnez'zar's dreams, in that SAME BOOK. The book of Daniel also discusses four great beasts, one like a lion, other like a bear, other like a leopard and the last different from all others terrible and dreadful and exceedingly strong. The last had ten horns, and one great one grew out, displacing three. It represents the fourth kingdom that is different from the other three, 10 leaders shall arise, one arises after then different from the former and put down three leaders. "He shall speak words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and shall think to change the times and the law; and they shall be given into his hand for a time, two times, and half a time. But the court shall sit in judgment, and his dominion shall be taken away, to be consumed and destroyed to the end." [Daniel 7: 25-26]
Now, this may be a stretch, but let me "philosophize" on this one.
three kingdoms
Lion: Rome, historically the World's greatest superpower, but it too fell
Bear: UK, I wont' get into it publicly, I can just imagine the types of debates this will launch
Leopard: "Native America" having to "flee" Euro persecution and slaughter [after helping those bastards survive the first winter mind you]
Worst: U.S.
Ten leaders:
George Washington
Abraham Lincoln
Teddy Roosevelt
FDR
Truman
Eisenhower
JFK
Nixon
Clinton
george w.
who did george w. displace?: [not in a physical sense, but undermining accomplishment]
FDR: george w. wants to privatize social security [i.e., end] benefits, and end welfare, both of which were established under FDR both of which bush is trying to alleviate
Nixon: it was under his administration affirmative action was initiated [also, until now, he was indubidably the most controversial president, a title quickly snatched by g dub] again george w wants to knock him off
Clinton: for the first time in decades not only was the budget balanced [well w/o using the medicare funds] but there was a hug surplus, bush messed all of that up, and the new record is on the deficit side.
speak words against the most high [i.e., God told me to do it]
wear out the Saints of the most high [running his campaign on Religious persecution as if he actually has morals]
think to change the times and the law [including a constitutional ban on gay marriage, Patriot Act etc., when there are still REAL looming issues such as educational disparities, homelessness, lack of health care etc. ]
ok, enough ranting on for one day, that is just my take on things Mr. Yashuah's son. So while I wholeheartedly believe God did not tell him to do it, I do KNOW that it was written!
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