The white nationalist version of The Olsen Twins?

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by ladylike
Huh?
Would the be a way someone can keep them from being white?

Tanning? I dunno....

and who names their kids Lamb and Lynx? That sounds like the main course at a fancy restaurant.

[lovelycapricorn]

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

Tanning? I dunno....

and who names their kids Lamb and Lynx? That sounds like the main course at a fancy restaurant.

Lmfao

[christiangirl]

Not to get off topic, but since when do the Olsen twins sing? I could swear they were actresses.

Somebody brought this up in a government class in high school. She said that it was unfair the way celebarting your heritage has such a double standard. There could be BSUs at every school, but if there was ever a White Student Union, then they'd be called KKKs and run out of town. Even as people were rolling their eyes, I could see she had a point, but this....I try to see the silver lining in everybody, but I don't know what to say about this. I think it's a good-intention forced on them by their parent(s) and then mutated and twisted into a money-making scheme that will eventually get them beat down and hiding out with Osama. But at least they'll have their blue eyes to remind them where they came from.*sigh*

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Somebody brought this up in a government class in high school. She said that it was unfair the way celebarting your heritage has such a double standard. There could be BSUs at every school, but if there was ever a White Student Union, then they'd be called KKKs and run out of town. Even as people were rolling their eyes, I could see she had a point, but this....

She doesn't have a point. Cultural pride develops out of something significant that a people has experienced. Whites may have had that during times like the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, but where do you see it today?

Cultural pride can also be artificially created through fanaticism (e.g. KKK).

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

She doesn't have a point. Cultural pride develops out of something significant that a people has experienced. Whites may have had that during times like the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, but where do you see it today?

Cultural pride can also be artificially created through fanaticism (e.g. KKK).

Cultural pride I don't have a problem with - but "white" is NOT a culture, and the creation of white as a culture is, by definition, extremely virulent racism. That's history, and I don't know why it isn't standard HS curriculum. Sad.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

Cultural pride I don't have a problem with - but "white" is NOT a culture, and the creation of white as a culture is, by definition, extremely virulent racism. That's history, and I don't know why it isn't standard HS curriculum. Sad.

Agreed. And I believe the girl christiangirl was referring to did not understand the distinction. There ARE European Student Associations, Irish/Gaelic Student Associations, Slavic Student Associations, etc. Heck, there's even Daughters of the American Revolution and United Daughters of the Confederacy. But, I daresay, these groups are not limited to whites.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

... the creation of white as a culture is, by definition, extremely virulent racism.

If you don't mind my asking, how? I think I know what you mean (and agree with you to an extent), but I want you to describe it in the way you mean it, so I don't end up putting words in your cyber-mouth later.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

If you don't mind my asking, how? I think I know what you mean (and agree with you to an extent), but I want you to describe it in the way you mean it, so I don't end up putting words in your cyber-mouth later.

The whole concept of "whiteness" is racist, really - historically, you can trace how it's used, always in opposition to whatever lower class "other" is being trampled on at the time. Once a group becomes more accepted by the mainstream, then somehow they get brought into the "white" label (the Irish, the Italians, the Jews, the Eastern Europeans). "Whiteness" inherently implies "white" versus "not white". To try to create a culture around that is sick and twisted, and a relatively recent historical phenomenon (the past 150 years or so, depending on your analysis). All of that history leads to our idea of "white" and race in general today - even when people use these concepts and don't know where they come from, you still can't separate it from that history.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

She doesn't have a point. Cultural pride develops out of something significant that a people has experienced. Whites may have had that during times like the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, but where do you see it today?

Cultural pride can also be artificially created through fanaticism (e.g. KKK).

The subprime meltdown. It was horrible.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Not to get off topic, but since when do the Olsen twins sing? I could swear they were actresses.

Somebody brought this up in a government class in high school. She said that it was unfair the way celebarting your heritage has such a double standard. There could be BSUs at every school, but if there was ever a White Student Union, then they'd be called KKKs and run out of town. Even as people were rolling their eyes, I could see she had a point, but this....I try to see the silver lining in everybody, but I don't know what to say about this.

First, the BSU formations on several PWI campuses was done for "PROTECTION". Some Universities did NOT allow Black students to use the library to study. They had to study elsewhere and find a way. Generally, the Black churches provided protection. But not always.

Times may have changed alot, but not that much. And to all for the illusion of inclusion is to have somebody wind up disillusioned. Your classmate is disillusioned to think that no one can associate based on their heritage.

I couldn't give a crippa crap if the KKK and Nazi's formed student groups if they wanted to Provide scholarships to "their people". But, who are they really going to select? How are they going to say their selected winner truly DESERVED their scholarship into White Studies--what studies are White? And if they switch it around and say European, what part of Europe? What about the Russians, Turks and other Eastern European countries? Are they accepted? You want to see ugly and immediate stratification in campus, let your admins buy into that crap... If it were me, I say they show Jerry Springer every day with Girls Gone Wild... And let homegirl be pissed off.

This is the same crap we of the NPHC get bombarded with all the time. There's another post somewhere on GC questioning ethnically sounding lastnames. People forget that the discrimination against one's surname breaks the 1965 Civil Rights Act.

Oh well so much for knowing one's history... Too many of our elders and responsible parents have died. Know thyself and move forward.

Even the GC Southern Elite are not that heartless. Maybe?

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

She doesn't have a point. Cultural pride develops out of something significant that a people has experienced. Whites may have had that during times like the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, but where do you see it today?

I should have made myself more clear. She was referring to celebrating struggles of their ancestors from their invididual European cultures and all the different countries they came from--not just the white Americans who sat around enslaving people. That was what I found a valid point.

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Oh well so much for knowing one's history... Too many of our elders and responsible parents have died. Know thyself and move forward.

Was that a general statement or are you actually implying that I don't know my own history?