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09-08-2005, 01:15 PM
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It IS a confusing story....and several sentences seem to contradict themselves or confuse things, so I'll leave it at this:
Sounds like you won't be able to get an answer that satisfies you here. None of us were experiencing this when you were...we don't know exactly what was said, what reasons were given what requirements were or were not met. And there's no need to tell us here, because we have no way of verifiying them in case you somehow misunderstood along the way.
You have to make the decision yourself. If you want to go through recruitment again, do it. That will answer all of your questions. There's no guarantee that it will be comfortable for you...it could be heartbreaking...it might not be.
It's your decision. There's no way we can predict what will happen.
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09-08-2005, 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by hawaiianstarlet
whoa wait what?? Im not commenting on the house I swear to it!! I wanted the bid, I liked the house at first dont get me wrong. Just the more I got into it the less I liked it. It was whole heartedly a person thing and had nothing to do with the house being bad as a whole. I still have a great deal of friends in that house, and like nearly everyone in it. If I am offending you I am really really really sorry.
So after all this I would like to make a public comment for people to please not reply to this thread anymore. I dont want anyones feelings to get hurt, and personally mine have been pretty well beat up over it.
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That's fine, if you didn't intend it then it would probably be best to stop the thread. No worries.
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09-08-2005, 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by OtterXO
The way it works in my chapter (which I think we all can figure out is the one at issue here) is that if you don't make grades you are considered a "Diamond Pledge". This means that you are not intitiated that quarter and you are carried over to the next quarter to see if you make grades and can be initiated.
What happens when we still have pledges is that instead of everyone coming to active meeting, they have what is called "interactive" with the pledges. No ritual, just event discussion, etc. Then once everyone is initiated it goes back to just "active" meeting for the remainder of the year. Interactive is VERY time consuming because you basically have 2 meetings a night.
The situation here, according to the post above, was that she did not make grades for 2 quarters. I can understand why some girls would be annoyed that chapter meeting was doubled in length every week for an entire year because of one person. It may seem catty, but people have limited time.
HOWEVER, I don't think she was asked to leave entirely for that reason. She said she could not attend meetings because of work AND WAS CAUGHT DRINKING AT FORMAL.
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Thanks so much for clearing it up for me! Makes so much more sense now.
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09-08-2005, 10:50 PM
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Wow, some schools are really prudish . . . if we punished girls for drinking at formal at my school and a lot of others there wouldn't be many sorority girls. That especially applies to underage ones . . .
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09-08-2005, 11:40 PM
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Wow, some schools are really prudish . . . if we punished girls for drinking at formal at my school and a lot of others there wouldn't be many sorority girls. That especially applies to underage ones . . .
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Just a note- It's against MOST if not ALL NPC sororities policies to have underage girls drinking at a formal. We have to follow state laws, if you're under 21 you cannot drink.
Violating this policy can get the ENTIRE chapter in trouble for a risk management violation, even if it's just one girl, so of course there will be some disciplinary measures taken toward the underage girls who drink.
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09-08-2005, 11:40 PM
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Wow, some schools are really prudish . . . if we punished girls for drinking at formal at my school and a lot of others there wouldn't be many sorority girls. That especially applies to underage ones . . .
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Dude, I think things have changed since you were in school.
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09-09-2005, 01:23 AM
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Ok so did the original poster edit out the part about being asked to leave b/c she drank at formal? I don't know where it came from since it's not in any of her posts and I'm really confused.
My advice is, if you're school is small enough that people would remember you and know the depledging situation, don't rerush. A school like mine where there are over 1000 PNM's every year, it's a bit different. However there is still the very real possibilty of one girl remembering you from the year before, though it's not as likely. I dunno, I guess in the end it's up to you to decide, but with the situation you've described I personally would say don't re-rush, but that is just MY opinion. Good luck.
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09-09-2005, 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by JocelynC
Just a note- It's against MOST if not ALL NPC sororities policies to have underage girls drinking at a formal. We have to follow state laws, if you're under 21 you cannot drink.
Violating this policy can get the ENTIRE chapter in trouble for a risk management violation, even if it's just one girl, so of course there will be some disciplinary measures taken toward the the underage girls who drink.
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Yep.........
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09-09-2005, 02:13 PM
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Well if all he underage girls go to formal sober . . I'd be surprised. You used to have to follow the 11th commandment, "Thou Shalt not Get Caught."
I think it would be a little naive to believe that underage girls are not drinking before or during formal (hidden flasks anyone?) regardless of the laws.
Or is it one of those good chapter things? The good, ladylike chapters don't do that but the bad chapters non-ladylike ones do?
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Originally posted by JocelynC
Just a note- It's against MOST if not ALL NPC sororities policies to have underage girls drinking at a formal. We have to follow state laws, if you're under 21 you cannot drink.
Violating this policy can get the ENTIRE chapter in trouble for a risk management violation, even if it's just one girl, so of course there will be some disciplinary measures taken toward the underage girls who drink.
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09-09-2005, 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by James
Well if all he underage girls go to formal sober . . I'd be surprised. You used to have to follow the 11th commandment, "Thou Shalt not Get Caught."
I think it would be a little naive to believe that underage girls are not drinking before or during formal (hidden flasks anyone?) regardless of the laws.
Or is it one of those good chapter things? The good, ladylike chapters don't do that but the bad chapters non-ladylike ones do?
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Also to go along with the previous rules I pointed out:
I'm not sure how the rules are with other NPC's, but I know in Sigma if your formal/semi formal is at an off campus location (which they usually are), the chapter must have ORGANIZED transportation (i.e. charter buses) to the venue.
You MUST BE SOBER when you go to get on the bus or you WILL NOT be allowed to attend (this goes for EVERYONE). Basically you can pregame if you want, but you won't be allowed to go to formal.
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09-09-2005, 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by hawaiianstarlet
whoa wait what?? Im not commenting on the house I swear to it!! I wanted the bid, I liked the house at first dont get me wrong. Just the more I got into it the less I liked it. It was whole heartedly a person thing and had nothing to do with the house being bad as a whole. I still have a great deal of friends in that house, and like nearly everyone in it. If I am offending you I am really really really sorry.
So after all this I would like to make a public comment for people to please not reply to this thread anymore. I dont want anyones feelings to get hurt, and personally mine have been pretty well beat up over it.
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Did anyone forget this post she made? Last on Page 1 and has continued since.
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09-09-2005, 04:42 PM
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Did anyone forget this post she made? Last on Page 1 and has continued since.
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I think the discussion has moved away from her specifically to a more general discussion...I don't see the problem with it.
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09-09-2005, 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by JocelynC
Basically you can pregame if you want, but you won't be allowed to go to formal.
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Pre-parties were STRICTLY FORBIDDEN when I was an active..... People did it anyway. They just were more careful about it. And if anyone knows how to sneak alcohol into an event, it would be the fraternity guys at A&M.
So, of course people SHOULDN'T drink underage, and people SHOULD follow the rules. But people will always sneak around and will always try to get away with things.
ETA: I'm not condoning actions like these, I'm just saying that they happen.
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09-09-2005, 07:15 PM
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And, when they happen, and when the people are caught, they shouldn't be surprised that there are consequences for not following fraternity/sorority policy and the law.
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09-09-2005, 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by AGDee
And, when they happen, and when the people are caught, they shouldn't be surprised that there are consequences for not following fraternity/sorority policy and the law.
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Oh, I agree.
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