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Old 08-29-2009, 07:47 PM
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Question reguarding joining a fraternity

I was a freshman last year and decided to pledge sae in the fall. I have nothing but good things to say about it, however I transferred schools and all of my friends at this new school are in different fraternities. I really would like to join one of these, and my friends really would like me too also, but I have been told by other sources I can't since I was initiated my freshman year. Can anyone please give me a way that I could possibly accomplish this without just affiliating, and if anyone knows of any fraternities have rules that do not prohibit initiating prior initiates could I please have a list of those. Thanks for the help.
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Old 08-29-2009, 08:02 PM
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NO. Not if its another NIC fraternity.

This thread is about the topic. http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=103426
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Old 08-29-2009, 08:29 PM
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http://www.nicindy.org/about_us/by_laws/

Right there in the NIC Bylaws. And just to let you know, from my understanding most organizations don't recognize the concept of withdrawing membership.
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:32 PM
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NO. Not if its another NIC fraternity.

This thread is about the topic. http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=103426
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http://www.nicindy.org/about_us/by_laws/

Right there in the NIC Bylaws. And just to let you know, from my understanding most organizations don't recognize the concept of withdrawing membership.
The NIC bylaws say:

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Be mutually exclusive of and in competition with other general fraternities, meaning that no member fraternity shall initiate a member of another fraternity until such time as the second fraternity shall have been formally notified in writing by the national office of the first fraternity that a candidate for membership in the second fraternity is no longer regarded as a member of the fraternity.
So a person could get initiated after withdrawing membership from the previous fraternity. Now whether or not you will get a second chance is a different story.
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:39 PM
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The NIC bylaws say:



So a person could get initiated after withdrawing membership from the previous fraternity. Now whether or not you will get a second chance is a different story.
You need to get an official letter from your national office, which most would not grant. And there are fraternities that actually themselves require that you have never been in a similar organization, or so I have been told.
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:45 PM
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You need to get an official letter from your national office, which most would not grant. And there are fraternities that actually themselves require that you have never been in a similar organization, or so I have been told.
Why don't you think they wouldn't grant such a letter?

And I know for a fact that there are several organizations that won't take previously initiated people. Someone brought up the NIC bylaws, though, so I clarified.

This should have gotten one of those "it depends on the organization/chapter" answers.
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Old 08-29-2009, 08:59 PM
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I don't understand why it matters if its a completely different school and completely different chapter
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:06 PM
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I don't understand why it matters if its a completely different school and completely different chapter
It matters because you pledged your loyalty to a specific fraternity, not just to a chapter. It's really sad that you don't get this and that you obviously didn't take your pledge seriously and for life.
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:40 PM
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I don't understand why it matters if its a completely different school and completely different chapter
Brotherhood is for life man, I am an SAE and I can tell you there is nothing else I would rather be even if I was at another college. Phi Alpha and hope you find what your looking for.
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Old 08-29-2009, 11:56 PM
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I don't understand why it matters if its a completely different school and completely different chapter
Why would one of those fraternities even want you, knowing how little regard you have for vows of brotherhood?
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:09 PM
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There is no expiration date on the vow you took to your fraternity.
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Old 08-29-2009, 10:02 PM
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Granted I'm using just my fraternity, but it wouldn't surprise me if this was teh case was with most. Psi Upsilon constitutionally doesn't recognize somebody withdrawing from membership. One your in, your in unless expelled from membership. Writing a letter that so and so is no longer a member of XYZ fraternity would be acknowledging that your sacred oath means nothing.
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Old 08-29-2009, 10:06 PM
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Granted I'm using just my fraternity, but it wouldn't surprise me if this was teh case was with most. Psi Upsilon constitutionally doesn't recognize somebody withdrawing from membership. One your in, your in unless expelled from membership. Writing a letter that so and so is no longer a member of XYZ fraternity would be acknowledging that your sacred oath means nothing.
You should have prefaced your response with that statement

I've seen several people drop one NIC organization and join another.

BTW, are you drunk or typing on your cell phone? Your response was a little...off lol
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Old 08-29-2009, 10:15 PM
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You should have prefaced your response with that statement

I've seen several people drop one NIC organization and join another.

BTW, are you drunk or typing on your cell phone? Your response was a little...off lol
You're right and I should have. And to answer your second question, I have been half asleep all day for some reason.
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Old 08-29-2009, 10:17 PM
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And to answer your second question, I have been half asleep all day for some reason.
OK, good. I would hate to think that GC was losing one of its more lucid posters lol
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