Black Men and White Women Is it a Problem?

Interesting coincidence with regards to this thread: there are at least two movies out now that involve interracial relationships: Mission Impossible 2 and another one. I mentioned Mission Impossible 2 because it's obvious, but I'll keep the other movie a secret because it's kind of a surprise. Anyone who has seen the movie will know what I'm talking about. In MI-2 the race thing is not an issue at all. In the other movie, it's kind of an issue, but an amusing one.

[prettygyrl]

Dang this is still going strong! Hey Mr. Moderator has there ever been other forums that have went this long? Anyway........ thanks Mgdzkm433 I truly respect your opinion as well. Thanks Monique I am glad you understand. To answer someones question about is the problem with only White and Black dating for the most part for ME anyway yes it is. Although I would love to see Black men with Black women it does not sadden me to see one with people of Hispanic descent. Also actually Kobe and his future wife were not highschool sweet hearts Kobe is not originally from L.A. He met this girl on the set of a video shoot. Finally............ I want to say something to Black people........UNFORTUNATELY ARE PRESENT STATE AS A PEOPLE IS VERY WEAK CURRENTLY, AND I COULD GO ON FOR DAYS AS TO HOW IT IS WE BECAME THIS WAY BUT I WILL NOT EVEN BOTHER WITH HOW IT STARTED. I WILL SAY THIS THOUGH.........WE WILL NEVER(I CAN NOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH) EVER GAIN EQUALITY IN THIS WORLD AS LONG AS WE CAN NOT GAIN IT AMONGST OURSELF. UNTIL THE DAY COMES THAT WE CAN SAY THAT NONE OF THE PAIN AND SUFFERING WE ENDURE IS AT THE HANDS OF ONE ANOTHER WE WILL CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE IN THIS WORLD. AS A PEOPLE WE HAVE A POOR SENSE OF WORTH AND WE CONTINUE TO HURT EACH IMMENSELY INSTEAD OF LOVING ONE ANOTHER. THE LOVE OF OURSLEVES IS KEY TO OUR STRUGGLE, WE SHALL NEVER OVERCOME UNTIL WE ARE STRONG AS A PEOPLE AND UNIFIED WITH A DEEP LOVE AMONGST OURSELVES. WE NEED TO REALIZE THAT THE GREATEST ACCEPTANCE WE CAN ACHIEVE IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF EACH OTHER NOT THE ACCEPTANCE OF OTHERS! UNTIL WE CAN LOVE, RESPECT, TRUST, AND BE LOYAL TO ONE ANOTHER WE CAN NEVER BE THAT WAY TO ANY OTHER. IF THERE ARE SOME WHO THINK THAT ARE IN LOVE WITH THE OTHER OR THAT RESPECT OR ARE RESPECTED BY THE OTHER, OR THAT THEY TRUST OR ARE TRUSTED BY THE OTHER, THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM A FALSE SENSE OF LOVE, RESPECT, TRUST, AND LOYALTY CAUSE ALL THAT BEGINS AT HOME. IF YOU DO NOT LOVE YOURSELF THEN YOU CAN NOT POSSIBLY LOVE ANYONE ELSE! I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS BUT AS A PEOPLE WE ARE ONE IN THE SAME. I SEE THINGS SUCH AS INTERRACIAL DATING,ALLOWING WHITE PEOPLE INTO BGLOS ETC. AS ANOTHER WAY THAT WE WEAKEN OURSELVES. THESE THINGS WEAKEN BONDS THAT WE MAY ALREADY HAVE AND CHANCES OF BONDS TO BE FORMED. IT IS JUST ANOTHER WAY WE DIVIDE OURSELVES. IF THERE ARE SOME WHO DO NOT BELEIVE OR WHO HAVE YET TO SEE THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THESE THINGS TRUST ME WHEN I SAY YOU WILL ONE DAY SEE. IT IS NOT ABOUT HATRED, OR RACISM. YES WE CAN WORK WITH WHITE PEOPLE, GO TO SCHOOL WITH THEM, ASSOCIATE WITH THEM, HELL INVITE THEM OVER FOR DINNER. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. BUT! OUR FAMILIES AND OUR ORGS(SUCH AS BGLOS) IS SOMETHING THAT IS OUR OWN. PRIVATE PERSONAL! THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE AND ARE FIGHTING TO MAINTAIN, THINGS THAT WE HAVE AND ARE FIGHTING TO KEEP IN GOOD STANDING, TO KEEP THEM STRONG. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAD TO AND STILL HAVE TO WORK DAM HARD AT TO KEEP TOGETHER AND TO KEEP THEM POSTIVE AMONGST OURSELVES! WE DO NOT HAVE TO SHARE THESE THINGS WITH THEM NOR SHOULD THEY HAVE TO SHARE THEM WITH US. WE ARE DIFFERENT! WE ARE VERY DIFFERENT! OUR LIFES WILL ALWAYS GO IN DIFFERENT WAYS. INTERGRATION MAY BE A GREAT IDEA IN SOME ASPECTS OF OUR LIVES BUT IT IS NOT SUCH A GOOD IDEA IN OTHER ASPECTS OF OUR LIVES. HOW CAN YOU KEEP THE BLACK FAMILY STRONG IF ONE OF THE HEADS OF THE FAMILY IS NOT BLACK? ITS REALLY NOT EVEN CONSIDERED A BLACK FAMILY ANY LONGER, RIGHT? SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ONE DAY THERE ARE JUST NO MORE BLACK PEOPLE AT ALL?........ I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YALL SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. I AM DONE WITH THIS TOPIC. I WANT TO SEND LOVE OUT TO ALL PEOPLE, BECAUSE I DO LOVE ALL PEOPLE. i JUST HAVE A GREATER AND MUCH DEEPER LOVE FOR MY PEOPLE AND IF THAT MAKES ME A RACIST........... THEN HELL, SO BE IT!

[mgdzkm433]

Prettygyrl,

I think that only a topic about religion MIGHT have gone this long, but I'm not sure. Also, I'm not a Mr. I'm a Miss.

[prettygyrl]

DID I CALL YOU A MR. MGDZKM433. IF I DID I APOLOGIZE!

[mgdzkm433]

Prettygyrl,

I think it's important for us all to express our true feeling, and I think that it's great that you feel strongly about something. Many people walk through life with the lack of feeling strongly towards any one thing in particular. I think it's wonderful to really believe in something, especially heritage and the past. I commend you for your strong beliefs in something so close to your heart. Even though some people might not agree with you, you should hold strongly to your feelings. I don't think there's an issue anywhere out there that everyone will fully agree on. They might not be as controversial as this issue, but we are all individuals with our own feelings, thoughts, beliefs, and opinions. It's important for us to express ourselves. Not only do I commend you, but I thank you as well. Even though you and I might not agree, I feel it's always important to view anothers opinion and learn from it, no matter if you agree with it or not, it is another prospective that I might never have thought of.

it looks as if people still have strong feelings about the whole interracial dating issue. personally, i'm in no position to deny myself the pleasure of a beautiful woman's company, regardless of her race. i'm a black man myself, and the last girl i dated was white.what i found funny was that some of the black women who openly criticized me had previously turned me down for dates. what was i to do? sit on my hands and knees praying for that special black woman? get real! especially considering the sheer amount of lovely ladies out there willing to be with me.
besides, last time i checked, uniting different cultures was something people strived for. am i to think that it's only ok provided i don't fall in love with a member of a different race and culture? we can be friends and talk all this nonsense about peace and unification but we can't date? fall in love? perhaps i'm just not getting it.

Originally posted by Jae:
Just to let you know my point of view. I am an African-American male and I have dated 3 "white" women and 3 "black" women...my point? It makes no damn difference to me what her race is as long as I like her personality traits/qualities. I don't get why sisters have a fit over this. It would be one thing if I said I'd ONLY date white girls, but that is NOT the case (trust me, I have met some sisters that will only date white men, and that pisses me off). I have personally never met a brother who only dates white women, so sisters...get off it! If we find the qualities we like in a woman who is not black, so what?

You dated three? Seems to me you do have a preference

[DELTABRAT]

DAMN!

Okay, let me say I really agree with shalom on this post and AKA2D '91. I really feel that if you know your history as an African in AMerica and understand slavery to the fullest, there would be no way you would date outside of your race (as a Black person). No other race was brought here for cheap labor purposes ONLY. I hear whithe people say all the time that "I didn't beat your ancesors" or" I didn't lynch you uncles and aunts, why are you mad at me." Because I am still living with that reality EVERYDAY of my Black life, that's why and so are you. Yeah although you didn't have the whip in hand, personally, one of your ancestors did. Point blank. Additionally, they want the Black folk when they are on top. Let some Sh*% go down with Kobe...NO ONE will have his back except the Black Community. This has happened numerous times in the past.

I personally think there are cultural differences that make it very difficult when people marry outside of the Black race. Additionally, the more we marry outside of the race, eventually the Black family (with traditional Black values and customs) will be erased.

I agree that I tend to have problems with people who ONLY date outside their race, and I have seen some. The occasional dating may not be the problem. But when you look past me (a strong sistah) to get to Sally...that's a problem.

To BlondeChick...you misconstrued the message. See..as Black women we have had MUCh more to deal with from the START of slavery and we endured. We were not meant to survive...do you understand that? But we did. There's drugs that are DELIBERATELY put into OUR neighborhoods...genocide. Many of us have fallen prey...many haven't. Still we raise children in some of the worst neighborhoods KNOWN to man. Yet we still raise athletes, doctors, lawyers, etc.

Remember we are talking on the average here. I am not saying there aren't white people who have had it bad and that there aren't some Black people who were afforded a lot of amenities so they would succeed. On the average...it's just not that way.

Finally, I don't see how a man can say he loves hi mama and marry someone who looks NOTHING like her.

I'm angry. Because I truly think white people don't understand where we are as a people...I KNOW they don't. Shaka Sankofa was MURDERED yesterday for a crime in which there is definite questions about his involvement.

I know you don't understand, but you don't have to. All of my life I have been MADE to understand you. Your history, your language, etc.

I'll tell you what, my son will not bring a white girl home. His father is in the Nation of Islam and I am very Pro-Black (can you tell). It won't happen.

I feel like the white people who say "I am not racist, my maid is Black." But I have plenty of friends who are white. I would question them if they stepped into the room with my brothah on their arm.

I love you all, but I have got to go.

[Diarra]

Delta Brat can I say amen.

[AlphaChiGirl]

DELTABRAT...

I really commend you for your stance. Often times on this board, people intend to say what you did, but their arguments are so stilted and end up sounding ignorant. You are a very eloquent, well-stated person (and thanks for not using caps!)
I don't object to interracial dating, because you can't control with whom you fall in love. I have, however, been ignored by black men in favor of white women--made to feel as if I'm not even in the room. That annoys me, but I really don't feel it appropriate to comment on it, because anyone can criticize my life and my dating choices.
We all should remember to concentrate on bettering ourselves, and the rest will follow.

[DELTABRAT]

Username...I like the way you reply to posts. It's interesting and easy to follow.
I forgot who asked the question to chAKAlate about the CPT (that's Compton). I am born and raised in Compton, left to go to UCLA. now I am back because I am a struggling graduate student (ya know the story). The fact is not that white people don't feel "safe" in Compton. The fact is that when Black people began to move to Compton in the 60's and 70's (yes, RUNNING from the south...we all know why. If not, see other 100+ posts on this thread)the city consisted on MOSTLY whites. I remember my neighbors being white when I was growing up. When they both died, we went to the funderal etc., etc. What happened/ As Blacks moved in, whites moved out. Point blank.

It's strange because we all know that white people (in Cali) would really prefer to live where we (Black and Latino) do. It is called South Central for a reason. It is the most centrally located area in Los Angeles. Close to downtown, Riverside, whatever.

Is anyone aware of the fact that there was JUST a prison built in Watts. You can see it off the 105 Fwy. Additionally, the building of the 105 happened very close (temporally) to the building of that prison. Some militant brothahs and sistahs (my mentors) feel that there is a reason behind this. Something to the tune of incarcerating MORE Black men. Thus leaving their families barely able to fend for themselves. Raising the prices of homes in
Watts, thereby making them unaffordable. Moving BACK in. DOn't forget that at one time, this was the residence of white people, and leaving us, once again, to fend for ourselves. Sound like a crock of shit? NOT.

Okay, enough on the lessons from the hood.

PEACE

[DELTABRAT]

By the way, Kobe's fiancee is Latina. My boyfriend just got an e-mail from his friend with a pic of them in the locker room after the game on Monday. He had some champaign and she was wedged deep between the brothahs legs. They seem happy. I ain't mad. Still won't change my story but I ain't mad. Should he have kicked it with Brandi? She might have been trippin'. Like "Fool, I'm worth 15 million my damn self so don't trip". Now rub my back. That's her rollin' her eyes. LOL

[DELTABRAT]

Who knows how I can get the picture off of his e-mail and post it for others to see. I can't tell my boyfriend because I wasn't EXACTLY supposed to be looking at his mail. I know, I know.

[prettygyrl]

BRAVO BRAVO DELTABRAT. YOU SPEAK IT LIK IT IS GIRL. PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE WHEN I TYPE IN CAPS SO THAT MAKES WHAT IS SAY STILTED AND IGNORANT. I AM LIKE WHATEVER! I SUPPOSE YOU ARE A BUT NICER BUT MY POST STARTED OFF NICE THEN SOME STARTED POSTING REALLY OFF TH WALL STUFF BUT STILL THEY GO WHAT THEY WANTED OUT OF IT! INSTEAD OF WHAT WAS THE TRUE MEANING OF WHAT I WAS SAYING SO I SUPPOSE THEY ARE DEALING WITH IT ANYWAY THEY CAN! I SAY WHATS ON MY MIND I TYPE IN CAPS WHEN IT IS IMPORTANT AND THATS THAT. I AM GLAD YOU ARE ON TOP OF THINGS! MUCH LOVE TO MY PEEPS

[theXgirl]

Originally posted by AlphaChiGirl:
I don't object to interracial dating, because you can't control with whom you fall in love. I have, however, been ignored by black men in favor of white women--made to feel as if I'm not even in the room. That annoys me, but I really don't feel it appropriate to comment on it, because anyone can criticize my life and my dating choices.
We all should remember to concentrate on bettering ourselves, and the rest will follow.

Could not have said it better myself Alpha Chi Girl!