Getting pregnant before marriage

[Rudey]

Originally posted by kstar
Who said that you aren't a 2 parent home if you don't have a marriage?

One of my friends from high school, Rachel, has been with her boyfriend, Derek, since she was a sophmore; 9 years now. They own their own home, have 2 adorable children, both have finished college, and she's going for her masters in social work. They are both incredibly commited to each other, and even went to couples counseling after her bout of postpartem depression so that the relationship kept working. Neither Rachel nor Derek need a peice of paper to state they are committed to each other.

On the other hand, Rachel grew up in two homes where her mother and father had restraining orders against the other. Derek's parents were together, and still are, but each have had multiple extramarital affairs.

Marriage is obsolete.

Add this to the long list of things you say that don't make sense and can't back up.

Oh by the way, until you got dumped by your fiance a few weeks ago, you didn't think marriage was obsolete.

-Rudey
--Time to go watch The View and sulk I suppose!

[Rudey]

Originally posted by StillSearching
Just because you come from a good family, does not mean that you won't get pregnant.

Just because you come from a good family, does not meant that you do not have SEX and WON'T get pregnant.

I think people are coming down on you so hard because the possible descriptions you gave of someone who had gotten pregnant (poor, trailer trash, ghetto, etc.)....

I grew up around people from good families and some of them got pregnant in high school or in college.

Educate thyself....PLEASE.

Well educated one, if you had the power to read (at least at the third grade level) you would know that I didn't say you wouldn't get pregnant if you came from a good family.

So if you or your friends are trailer trash, get knocked up, drop out of school, take a low paying job, and have to take psych meds for the rest of your lives, that's pretty much following the route with the highest probability.

I bet if someone cuts their mullet, their likelihood of impregnating a girl out of wedlock drops in half.

-Rudey

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by kstar
Who said that you aren't a 2 parent home if you don't have a marriage?

One of my friends from high school, Rachel, has been with her boyfriend, Derek, since she was a sophmore; 9 years now. They own their own home, have 2 adorable children, both have finished college, and she's going for her masters in social work. They are both incredibly commited to each other, and even went to couples counseling after her bout of postpartem depression so that the relationship kept working. Neither Rachel nor Derek need a peice of paper to state they are committed to each other.

On the other hand, Rachel grew up in two homes where her mother and father had restraining orders against the other. Derek's parents were together, and still are, but each have had multiple extramarital affairs.

Marriage is obsolete.

You do realize that your friends are the exception and not the rule, right?

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Rudey
Abortions are cheap these days. If you want to avoid the doctor you can spend 5 bucks on an over the counter med and get it over with also. The France thing...I mean it's not like they keep them in the woods. If some chick I knew had to drop out of school and was like "Listen party people, I'm taking some time off in Paris and won't take calls or visits" I'd be a little suspicious. There was an awful movie about Irish girls that were forced to live together if they had kids called Magdalene Sisters (it had me depressed for a week).

The Pick Up Artist? Is it funny? I'm not looking for bad 80s drama.

-Rudey

Rudith, are you talking about Plan B? Because that's not so much available over the counter, THANKS FDA!

Also, the Madgdelene Sisters is the saddest movie ever.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
You do realize that your friends are the exception and not the rule, right?

I don't even know of that's true... It sounds like they spent a great deal of money to avoid being called "married" (as kddani pointed out earlier). Also, in the event of a divorce, there's a good chance that whichever one of them has the least money will be in a highly disadvantaged position.

They're throwing money away on taxes and insurance -- but hey, they're not married! That makes them smart and sophisticated and stuff.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by ktsnake
I strongly disagree. There are a lot of benefits to being married -- lower insurance, owning property in joint tenancy, can get on group insurance plans together, etc. There's very little reason not to be wed in their case. If they did end up splitting, one could bring a lawsuit against the other for division of the assets acquired during the relationship anyhow.

I think the theory is 'dissolution of a partnership,' but I could be wrong (and probably am).

What if they don't LOVE each other? There's a reason not to be wed - the most important one of all.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
What if they don't LOVE each other? There's a reason not to be wed - the most important one of all.

Why stay together if you don't love each other?

[Rudey]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Rudith, are you talking about Plan B? Because that's not so much available over the counter, THANKS FDA!

Also, the Madgdelene Sisters is the saddest movie ever.

No I have difficulty finding it on the internet because I always forget the name. It's a med sold OTC to treat some other health problem that costs 5 bucks and can cause an abortion. There was a report a while back about how if even every law protecting abortion was repealed, it's progressed too far along in terms of technology to stop it anymore. I posted it on here once before when i was able to find it on google somewhere in the news & politics forum.

I saw the magdalene sisters on a date. I was so upset afterwards. It's more upsetting than just sad. For sad watch the movie "The Sea Inside".

-Rudey

[Kevin]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
What if they don't LOVE each other? There's a reason not to be wed - the most important one of all.

What Munchkin said. I'd rather see two happy parents apart and with other people who they love acting as positive role models for the kids than to be leading what must be an incredibly odd life with someone who you don't care about.

kstar's hypo makes me tend to believe that these are two people who love eachother very much, but have some major issues when it comes to being called "married."

I really just can't even imagine. I see the worst of the worst when it comes to divorce where I'm working and where I'll be working after I finish school. Even seeing what I see -- which can be pretty depressing sometimes, I understand that marriage is a good thing if it is something that both are willing to work for. I'm almost lucky to be where I'm at, I get lessons every day as to what "not" to do in a marriage.

-- Apparently, cheating on your spouse is a bad thing.. who knew?

[Rudey]

Hey people, Macaulay Culkin's parents didn't get married and loved each other. It worked out well.

-Rudey

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by Rudey
Hey people, Macaulay Culkin's parents didn't get married and loved each other. It worked out well.

-Rudey

I know if I was going to make an argument about marriage, Macaulay Culkin would be the first person I turn to for an example.

[33girl]

Originally posted by ktsnake
kstar's hypo makes me tend to believe that these are two people who love eachother very much, but have some major issues when it comes to being called "married."

I really think that's the crux of it. (I love the word "crux" and am really glad I had a chance to use it.) Some people have such a huge, giant psychological hangup that marriage = lifetime of hell, that no matter what, if they got married it would tank. And no, I don't know any of those people, I didn't date them for umpteen years or anything, thanks for asking.

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by Rudey
Hey people, Macaulay Culkin's parents didn't get married and loved each other. It worked out well.

-Rudey

See, kstar? Your friends are dooming their children to a life of being raped by Michael Jackson . . . and no amount of quasi-marital counseling can help that - it's a fact!

[StillSearching]

Originally posted by Rudey
Well educated one, if you had the power to read (at least at the third grade level) you would know that I didn't say you wouldn't get pregnant if you came from a good family.

So if you or your friends are trailer trash, get knocked up, drop out of school, take a low paying job, and have to take psych meds for the rest of your lives, that's pretty much following the route with the highest probability.

I bet if someone cuts their mullet, their likelihood of impregnating a girl out of wedlock drops in half.

-Rudey

You said 'IF' so, there is no need for me to get offended by anything you just said.

I apologize for not reading everything you said. But, you did come off as IGNORANT in the beginning and I do hope you realize that. If you don't, I feel sorry for YOU and your CHILDREN.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by StillSearching
You said 'IF' so, there is no need for me to get offended by anything you just said.

I apologize for not reading everything you said. But, you did come off as IGNORANT in the beginning and I do hope you realize that. If you don't, I feel sorry for YOU and your CHILDREN.

You're from Tennessee. I can understand you'd be around a lot of drop-out mothers that live in trailer parks, with low paying jobs, that take xanax so you'd see things differently.

-Rudey