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Sugar_N_Spice · #1 02-20-2002, 03:31 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by snuggles12
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Originally posted by kiml122
What I didn't like was the fact that they were trying to make Theo be the bad guy just because he was standing by his convictions. Theo grew up in a religious household with his father being a minister and all, and he is going about what he believes in.

But, what I think is hyporitical is that he thinks lesbian women are "sexy" and gay men are "disgusting"...According to the Bible, BOTH are SINS!!!! I think homosexuality is wrong and a sin, but I also believe that what other people do with their own lives is their business--NOT MINE, and that only God has the right to judge them...

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Originally posted by lovelyivy84
Same way that Walla Walla should have known that men were going to be on this show, he should have known that gays were going to be on this show- if he was going to have a problem with gay people, or living with a gay person he should not be there. Does he expect his roommate to not live his life because of his beliefs? I don't think so.

That's exactly what I'm saying: "If ya can't take the heat..." then, WHY did you come on the show in the first place?? If I were on the show I wouldn't be acting like he is by judging Chris (b/c Theo IS judging Chris by saying one thing and doing another)...I would be kinda grossed out at times (like when Chrsi was making out with his "friend") but I would respectfully voice my opinions and concerns (of which I wouldn't have as long as we were not sharing a room)...the same rules that apply for the rest of the house should apply to Chris as well...

kiml122 · #2 02-20-2002, 03:40 PM

That's what's up!!!

I think that this is a damn good topic as far as last nights show. Man talking about a really good stimulating conversation where you have different thoughts and views on the same show, and it's ok. I just wanted to put that out there.

Now back to the topic.
I'm not sure that I want to classify what Theo has is hate towards Chris because he is gay. Now he does state that a homosexual lifestyle is a sin, and I agree with you Snuggles12 that he is talking out both sides of his mouth when he says that about the gay lifestyle, but yet he is having sex outside of marriage, which also is a sin.

Now you saw that he called his father last night who is a minister to verify that being gay is a sin. Now you heard his father confirm that it was a sin, maybe his father never told him that have sex outside being married is a sin.

I'm just saying...he he he.

kiml122 · #3 02-20-2002, 03:43 PM

One more thing....someone made a comment that Aneesa's eyes do not blink at the same time....well I saw it last night and I thought I was going to fall on the floor laughing.

MeezDiscreet · #4 02-20-2002, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by lovelyivy84

so one is "standing by his convictions" while the other was "miseducated"??? The only difference between these two men is who they were taught to hate.

Like I said before, teh fact that he is talking about gays instead of blacks, whites or asians does not make it any less wrong.

That is the problem I have with religions sometimes- people will use them to justify any hatred or prejudice and feel like they have a righteous reason to be prejudiced.

but, if you remember, mike was saying what his father had told him. i don't recall him saying that he actually believed that. if he did and i'm wrong, i'll wear the hat.

and as far as religion goes, anyone who is a true believer and really is a follower, such as myself, will not hate anyone. we are taught to love everyone. true, we do believe in a right and wrong, but we are not to hate anyone who as chosen the latter path. i don't think theo hates chris or anyone else who is gay. i simply believe that he disagrees with homosexuality and that it is rooted in his spiritual and religious beliefs

lovelyivy84 · #5 02-20-2002, 04:30 PM

Would it make a difference if I used another word?

So instead of hatred it's intolerance, or prejudice, or bigotry, or judgement? It's all the same in my eyes.

Regardless of who taught it to him, Mike got criticised for even expressing those feelings. It was not his father that people were criticising, it was him.

Now when Theo says the same stuff but about somebody else, it's ok? Because it springs from a religious source, we should respect the fact that he thinks it is ok to discriminate against a certain group of people? Because it is rooted in a spiritual belief? There are a lot of wrongheaded ideas rooted in spiritual beliefs and the fact that someone thinks god said it doesn't make them ok.
I think that people who say it is when they were the first ones to criticise Mike are hypocrites.

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Originally posted by MeezDiscreet

but, if you remember, mike was saying what his father had told him. i don't recall him saying that he actually believed that. if he did and i'm wrong, i'll wear the hat.

and as far as religion goes, anyone who is a true believer and really is a follower, such as myself, will not hate anyone. we are taught to love everyone. true, we do believe in a right and wrong, but we are not to hate anyone who as chosen the latter path. i don't think theo hates chris or anyone else who is gay. i simply believe that he disagrees with homosexuality and that it is rooted in his spiritual and religious beliefs

MeezDiscreet · #6 02-20-2002, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by lovelyivy84
Would it make a difference if I used another word?

So instead of hatred it's intolerance, or prejudice, or bigotry, or judgement? It's all the same in my eyes.

Regardless of who taught it to him, Mike got criticised for even expressing those feelings. It was not his father that people were criticising, it was him.

Now when Theo says the same stuff but about somebody else, it's ok? Because it springs from a religious source, we should respect the fact that he thinks it is ok to discriminate against a certain group of people? Because it is rooted in a spiritual belief? There are a lot of wrongheaded ideas rooted in spiritual beliefs and the fact that someone thinks god said it doesn't make them ok.
I think that people who say it is when they were the first ones to criticise Mike are hypocrites.

the point that i am trying to make is that i don't believe theo is discriminating against chris or other homosexuals. he just doesn't approve of the lifestyle. i haven't once heard him say that he doesn't like chris because he is gay, nor have i seen him treat chris with disrespect/disdain because he is gay. theo has just made it known that, because of his religious belifes, he doesn't believe in homosexuality. and, i don't believe he is judging chris either. he hasn't condemned chris to hell and if he did, it wouldn't be right because that is not his call to make. he doesn't talk down to chris, he doesn't treat chris bad. he just made it known how he feels about the homosexual lifestyle.

and yes, mike got criticized for saying what his father told him, but not by me because i didn't think it to be as serious as coral made it out to be. i think he could've picked his words better, but i wasn't on the "i hate mike" bandwagon because of it. and i don't think there were a lot of people who were.

IInd2Nun · #7 02-21-2002, 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by Virtual Violet

Ditto. Really, what are the chances WALLA WALLA would go to 47th Street, Englewood, or Cabrini? On second thought, that wouldn't have been such a bad idea, it would help her get over her "intimidation" of Black people REAL quick

I didn't mean those areas specifically and wasn't implying that Southside equated the projects or low income housing... besides Cabrini is a bit west. I'm wondering if the place where they are doing the mural is near the Point I really couldn't tell from Tuesday's show. But as you know there are many beautiful museums south. Museum of Science for instance right down the street from UofC in Hyde Park. The reason that I brought it up is, being from Chicago and seeing how they only stay in those two areas North (wicker park) and South loop (water tower place) they are definitely stuck in a bubble and aren't being exposed to a true experience of Chicago.

AKA2D '91 · #8 03-04-2002, 11:44 PM

HC that one other chick on the RW looks like Paula Jones, the chick that had an affair with Clinton when he was Governor of Arkansas?

snuggles12 · #9 03-13-2002, 04:50 PM

Did anyone noticed that David's song from RW New Orleans was played, "Come on Baby", was played during the show?

straightBOS · #10 03-13-2002, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by snuggles12
Did anyone noticed that David's song from RW New Orleans was played, "Come on Baby", was played during the show?

Thanks!

I was watching it and wondering why the song sounded so familiar.

exquizit · #11 03-13-2002, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by snuggles12
Did anyone noticed that David's song from RW New Orleans was played, "Come on Baby", was played during the show?

YES!! I was like "Noooo" that negro does not need ANY ego stroking

Sugar_N_Spice · #12 03-14-2002, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by exquizit

YES!! I was like "Noooo" that negro does not need ANY ego stroking

LMAO...

I needed a lil' chuckle!!!

skeeliteful · #13 03-14-2002, 08:51 PM

It was a stupid song then....and it's still a stupid song.

lovelyivy84 · #14 03-15-2002, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by skeeliteful
It was a stupid song then....and it's still a stupid song.

That song was so bad!

But admit it, when you heard it you were literally rolling on the floor with laughter! Admit it!

I personally consider it one of MTV's finest programming moments.

I STILL laugh remembreing his "video" where he was all up on someone else's car trying to pimp. Oh My Lord! He was such an ass!

skeeliteful · #15 03-15-2002, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by lovelyivy84

That song was so bad!

But admit it, when you heard it you were literally rolling on the floor with laughter! Admit it!

I personally consider it one of MTV's finest programming moments.

I STILL laugh remembreing his "video" where he was all up on someone else's car trying to pimp. Oh My Lord! He was such an ass!

YES I WAS! I WAS LIKE WTH!!!