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Old 12-02-2005, 11:06 AM
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this guy has no concept of structural analysis and member design.

the most ridiculous argument i've ever heard.
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:14 AM
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this guy has no concept of structural analysis and member design.

the most ridiculous argument i've ever heard.
Why don't you break it down for him, boilermaker?
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:16 AM
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Why don't you break it down for him, boilermaker?
i already did.

and i don't need to write a long ass paper on it either.
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:16 AM
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i already did.

and i don't need to write a long ass paper on it either.
Another reason why I love you.
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:17 AM
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Another reason why I love you.

*blushin*

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Old 12-02-2005, 11:19 AM
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1.The point is: Larry Silverstein purchased the buildings 1,2, and 7, then finalized a massive record breaking insurance deal just six weeks prior to 9-11... - which would satisfy motive for building 7 under Dr. Jones' hypothesis... - Although, I still maintain that my qualitative speculation here should be considered independently from the physics in this matter (quantitative data):

http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/200..._6_person.shtml

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background/owners.html

http://www.insurancejournal.com/new...06/07/15925.htm


*2. And of course, *most importantly*, the Operation Northwoods documents explain the potential motive for buildings 1 and 2, as well as somewhat building 7:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods



I would also like to add here that Marvin Bush was hired as head of security for the entire complex.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911security.html


3. and... that the person who was in charge of certifying the steel in those buildings does not see any reason why those buildings should have colapsed due to fire or any type of fuel.

here is his letter of obvious concern:

http://www.septembereleventh.org/ne...-11-11-ryan.php

Thus Dr. Jones' hypothesis :

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html


a hypothesis which is echoed by many others, including many engineers. Here is just one example:

PHYSICS 911 is created and maintained by a group of scientists, engineers and other professionals known collectively as the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-eleven

http://physics911.net/
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:16 PM
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Deke -- simply amazing, and not in a good way. Honestly, your "theory" seems to be about the same quality as these:

"US Accused of Using Poison Gas in Iraq"

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/new...ervice_id=9631

"Al-Zarqawi Captured in Iraq"

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/new...ervice_id=6517

"Al-Zarqawi Captured on Syrian-Iraq Border"

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/new...ervice_id=2955

Oh.. same paper, and this story looks familiar:

"Controlled collapse of World Trade Center Building 7?"

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/con...ory.asp?id=255
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I say we move this thread to the land of the loonies, so it can be debated by people who "know" the truth

Here's a good site to banish it to:
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo.htm

Oh wait they already have a thing about the WTC7, and it being an evil governmental/NWO/Zionist/insurance/satanic plot
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:55 PM
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http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.shtml


http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/latest/aibs_2002_wtc.pdf


by structural engineers.

a more relevant discussion.
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:58 PM
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http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.shtml


http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/latest/aibs_2002_wtc.pdf


by structural engineers.

a more relevant discussion.
Hmmm... but they don't support his theory - so they'll be dismissed as well; much like the earlier report I linked to the thread.

In the immortal words of Winston Churchill:
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind
and won't change the subject"
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:30 PM
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Fortunatley... Im not using those sources. Pointing at other people that may or may not promote some of the ideas in my hypothesis is unfair and illogical deamonization. I suggest that everyone read my last post in its entirity, including the links.

Operation Northwoods (links provided in my last post) was an official U.S. government plan to carry out acts of terrorism to incite a desired state of public opinion. - this could be the motive that would satisfy Dr. Jones' hypothesis. - and its just that... its a hypothesis, to be tested against others...

I am open to other ideas - (and I am aware they exist), but I am very concerned, especially given the obvious problems outlined in Dr. Jones' paper and others, including the potential motive that exists. FEMA owes the American public a better investigation.

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Fortunatley... Im not using those sources. Pointing at other people that may or may not promote some of the ideas in my hypothesis is unfair and illogical deamonization. I suggest that everyone read my last post in its entirity, including the links.

Operation Northwoods (links provided in my last post) was an official U.S. government plan to carry out acts of terrorism to incite a desired state of public opinion. - this could be the motive that would satisfy Dr. Jones' hypothesis. - and its just that... its a hypothesis, to be tested against others...

I am open to other ideas - (and I am aware they exist), but I am very concerned, especially given the obvious problems outlined in Dr. Jones' paper and others, including the potential motive that exists. FEMA owes the American public a better investigation.
Do you and this "Dr. Jones" share homosexual fantasies? Frankly, i'm getting a little creeped out by you and your "Dr. Jones."

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Old 12-02-2005, 03:36 PM
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Fortunatley... Im not using those sources. Pointing at other people that may or may not promote some of the ideas in my hypothesis is unfair and illogical deamonization. I suggest that everyone read my last post in its entirity, including the links.

Operation Northwoods (links provided in my last post) was an official U.S. government plan to carry out acts of terrorism to incite a desired state of public opinion. - this could be the motive that would satisfy Dr. Jones' hypothesis.
Operation Northwoods was cooked up in 1962. I think you and Dr. Jones are going to have to do better than that.
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:56 PM
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Hmmm... but they don't support his theory - so they'll be dismissed as well; much like the earlier report I linked to the thread.

In the immortal words of Winston Churchill:
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind
and won't change the subject"
his theory is wrong and preposterous.

he should read structural engineering publications.

hell, some of my own professors did the actual investigation the following weeks after 9/11.

i'll believe them over some random ass astro-physicist who doesn't know the difference from a composite column, and steel joist from his own ass.
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:57 PM
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my hypothesis is illogical

indeed.
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