Yale's Comprehensive Sexual Misconduct Guide

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You should put this in your signature to override anything you type to the contrary.

Not necessary. I have never typed anything to the contrary of allegations being taken seriously and examined thoroughly.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by honorgal

Not necessary. I have never typed anything to the contrary of allegations being taken seriously and examined thoroughly.

So your posts about "silent consent" and "victims who didn't resist" didn't come across as dismissing certain claims?

[Low D Flat]

Neither did Swarthmore.

Swarthmore did find him responsible for sexual assault (the administrative equivalent of guilty). He was expelled.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by Low D Flat

Swarthmore did find him responsible for sexual assault (the administrative equivalent of guilty). He was expelled.

Are you sure about that? Might be another case from the magazine article?

My reading of it is that she went to the Dean and then said that she never heard back from the Administration.

[DrPhil]

Honorgal, please learn the definitions of words and phrases if you insist on their use. I beg of you.

There is nothing passive aggressive about finding it unfortunate that you have missed one of the points that many of us have been making to you in various threads. It is fine to disagree. It is not fine if the point goes over your head, post after post after post. That is perplexing.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Honorgal, please learn the definitions of words and phrases if you insist on their use. I beg of you.

There is nothing passive aggressive about finding it unfortunate that you have missed one of the points that many of us have been making to you in various threads. It is fine to disagree. It is not fine if the point goes over your head, post after post after post. That is perplexing.

It IS perplexing, I agree. Why not just say "yes, that is the point I was trying to make"?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by honorgal

It IS perplexing, I agree. Why not just say "yes, that is the point I was trying to make"?

Because such simplicity is wasted on people like you.

[Low D Flat]

My apologies. I confused it with another case. In the Sendrow Swarthmore case, both students graduated shortly after the complaint, and the victim is unaware what, if anything, happened to the alleged offender after that. So we don't know if there was any punishment.

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/ra...xual-assaults/

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by Low D Flat

My apologies. I confused it with another case. In the Sendrow Swarthmore case, both students graduated shortly after the complaint, and the victim is unaware what, if anything, happened to the alleged offender after that. So we don't know if there was any punishment.

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/ra...xual-assaults/

No problem. It's hard to keep the details straight especially because a lot of them sound depressingly similar.

I would think in order for there to have been a punishment in the Sendrow case, there would first need to have been an investigation which would require her testimony/involvement. But who knows. Maybe they've bowed to the extremists wishes and all they need is an allegation and they skip straight to a finding of guilt.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

How we accidentally teach children that consent doesn't matter.

[DrPhil]

Thank you, DBB.

There are so many ways society accidentally and sometimes intentionally teaches children and adults that their bodies are not their own, that they have no control over life outcomes, and that they are obligated to show attention and affection.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Thank you, DBB.

There are so many ways society accidentally and sometimes intentionally teaches children and adults that their bodies are not their own, that they have no control over life outcomes, and that they are obligated to show attention and affection.

Yes, another one is minimizing any sort of roughhousing or contact among children...I think I read a similar article that talked about a girl whose pigtails were regularly pulled by a classmate, and the teacher laughed if off as "boys will be boys."

[DrPhil]

I agree in terms of nonconsensual and unreciprocated roughhousing and contact among children.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I agree in terms of nonconsensual and unreciprocated roughhousing and contact among children.

Oh, right, I meant minimizing complaints of roughhousing, i.e. when it's reported to an adult, the adult brushes it off.