Recruitment Results

[33girl]

How did this turn from the recruitment results thread into the Be A Bitch thread? This is one of those things that make people laugh hard when "southern hospitality" and "class" get bandied about.

(obvi, not SWTXBelle or AOE2AlphaPhi)

[SWTXBelle]

Whew, thanks 33girl - I was about to go "WHAT?".

[SthrnZeta]

Spreading rumors about struggling chapters is a dirty business - it happened to my chapter during FR when I was a PNM going through (thankfully I didn't hear the rumor until after I was initiated) but my chapter is still there and thriving thankyouverymuch! So rumors like that don't mean isht!

[kddani]

While I'm a Kappa Delta, I have no idea as to the goings on and status of our Baylor chapter.

However, I will say, that it's classless and tacky to take glee in the downfall of another chapter. It's even more classless to perpetuate rumors such as the ones that have been posted most recently in this thread. Really, what's the point? What does it accomplish?

As 33girl stated above, this is why people laugh at claims of "southern hospitality" and all of the talk about manners and good breeding, etc. Ignorance knows no geographical or socio-economic boundaries.

[fantASTic]

So here's a question for all you older members; why do they allow quota additions when not all sororities take quota [such as at Puget Sound]? It would seem logical [to me] that the women who did not match high enough on the bid lists of those who made quota have two choices: accept a snap bid from Theta, or be bidless.

It kind of seems that those quota additions just hurt those who are struggling, because there is less incentive for PNMs to maximize their options or consider struggling chapters.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

It kind of seems that those quota additions just hurt those who are struggling, because there is less incentive for PNMs to maximize their options or consider struggling chapters.

Yes, QA's are allowed even when everyone else hasn't reached quota. I think the point of them is to place as many PNMs as possible who maximized their options. It's not meant to help/hurt the sorortities.

[FSUZeta]

the point of quota additions is to be able to present as many pnms as possible with a bid. the spirit is to benefit the pnms, not so much the sororities. they are given to the pnms who did not match during bid matching, yet who "played the game" and attended the maximum number of parties each round. these pnms are on the bid list of the chapter for whom they become a quota addition, just not high enough to be on first bid list. they are basically next in line on the bid list.

while it might appear to hurt a chapter who did not make quota, it really doesn't(other than giving another sorority one more member). the pnm was not on the quotaless chapters bid list, either because they did not invite her back, or she dropped them. the likelihood of a pnm in that situation accepting a bid from them would be pretty low.

[SWTXBelle]

Correct me if I'm wrong (I had to hand over my Green Book to the new alumnae chapter president!), but aren't quota additions limited to a percentage of quota? So, in most cases, you are only talking about a few new members.

And in defense of "southern hospitality" - please note, I'm southern! There are many gracious southern GCers (and, true, many non-southern gracious GCers) .But no area is free from rudeness, tackiness, and petty behavior.
One does expect better from a sorority member, though.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Correct me if I'm wrong (I had to hand over my Green Book to the new alumnae chapter president!), but aren't quota additions limited to a percentage of quota? So, in most cases, you are only talking about a few new members.

I believe so. I've honestly never seen a sorority at my school get more than 2 (quota is usually 15-20ish every year).

[LoggerTheta]

Originally Posted by AOE2AlphaPhi

At the University of Puget Sound,
Quota was 19
Alpha Phi-20
Pi Beta Phi- 20
Gamma Phi Beta-19
Kappa Alpha Theta-13

Quota dropped by 4 since last year and Theta is doing COB events right now to get their numbers up. Last year, with the higher quota, they got 12, so they are doing better.

Sorry I have to reply to this not in a malicious way or anything, but just for clarification. Just because we have fewer women absolutely does not mean that we weren't doing just fine already. My chapter has made leaps and bounds since I joined, and we have an AMAZING sisterhood. I commend all the UPS chapters for doing so well this spring despite the fewer number of women going through formal recruitment in the first place. I just wanted to say something because the tone of your final comments was a little negative. However, I do realize that it was probably inadvertent because it's hard to get your exact point across when all you have to work with is text.

[Benzgirl]

Any word from DePauw yet? Bid Day was yesterday.

[SWTXBelle]

Good point, Lady Longhorn.

And to address the issue of rumors and snark - what many collegians and some alumnae do not realize is that we are all in this together. If one chapter struggles, it does impact the others, and not in a good way. Yes, we are competing, but at the end of the day, a thriving Greek system in which all chapters are strong is the best way to ensure that pnms are able to have a home, and that the Greek system will be well-regarded and strong. I'm sure we've all had the experience of hearing a teaser for the news "Sorority in trouble" and said to ourselves, "Oh, please don't let it be my sorority!". But here's the kicker - it doesn't matter . To Joe Blow in the street, all those sororities are the same. Greek letters are Greek letters, and we are all are tarred with the same brush.
Panhellenic spirit isn't (or shouldn't) be just a nice little something that we say once a year at formal recruitment. If you truly embody the ideals and creed of your sorority, I fail to see what part pettiness and snide comments can have in your life. And if you don't - why not spend more time on improving yourself rather than making your GLO look bad. 'Cause arrogance and spite are never pretty.

[AOE2AlphaPhi]

Originally Posted by LoggerTheta

Sorry I have to reply to this not in a malicious way or anything, but just for clarification. Just because we have fewer women absolutely does not mean that we weren't doing just fine already. My chapter has made leaps and bounds since I joined, and we have an AMAZING sisterhood. I commend all the UPS chapters for doing so well this spring despite the fewer number of women going through formal recruitment in the first place. I just wanted to say something because the tone of your final comments was a little negative. However, I do realize that it was probably inadvertent because it's hard to get your exact point across when all you have to work with is text.

I'm really sorry if that seemed negative. I didn't mean for my comments to come across that way at all. Most of my best friends are Thetas and I was trying to emphasize how well you ladies did. I agree that it was a great recruitment for all the chapters this semester.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally Posted by LoggerTheta

Sorry I have to reply to this not in a malicious way or anything, but just for clarification. Just because we have fewer women absolutely does not mean that we weren't doing just fine already. My chapter has made leaps and bounds since I joined, and we have an AMAZING sisterhood. I commend all the UPS chapters for doing so well this spring despite the fewer number of women going through formal recruitment in the first place. I just wanted to say something because the tone of your final comments was a little negative. However, I do realize that it was probably inadvertent because it's hard to get your exact point across when all you have to work with is text.

I personally think it's a bigger problem that quota has dropped so much, I remember that it was more in the upper 20's not too long ago (with 5 houses). The fact that we lost a chapter only a couple of years ago AND quota has dropped seem to be a bad trend.

But on the bright side, informal (Fall) results have remained high.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Any word from DePauw yet? Bid Day was yesterday.

All I know about DePauw is that one of my friends is a new member of Kappa!