Biggest Rush Mistakes at any institution

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by floridagurl1

off topic but...



I'm sorry but i seriously laughed out loud. My African American friend was rushing his freshman year during fall and for lack of a better term didn't know the "sterotypes" of certain fraternities and walked into the ka house during rush, saw a confederate flag, and walked back out.

and i always get jorts comments from my ucf and fsu friends but i have maybe seen 3 or 4 people ever wearing jean shorts here.. and defiantly never anyone who was greek. (except for ka who i heard actually HAD a jorts social.. to each his own)

I've seen at least 20 in Gainesville and I've only been there one time for more than an hour. Guys in southern fraternities have too much style to wear jorts as anything but a joke but the GDIs are clueless. Here at FSU we have a high number Guido GDIs and down there in Jortsville there seems to be a high number of geeks in jean shorts.
SEC... unless that kid's a legacy then I think its safe to assume that KA is gonna pass. I can only think of two fraternities here that would take someone of that "caliber" and KA is definitely not one of them. IDK how it is there but KA and EX are probably the two most exclusive fraternities here.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

A good friend of my from home is a KA at FSU, so I've been around some of them on several occasions. They're the same here. Obama supporters are shown the door.
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In what decade is Kappa Alpha living?

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

In what decade is Kappa Alpha living?

I dont think Obama had supporters in other decades. Hillary supporters would receive the same treatment lol.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

In what decade is Kappa Alpha living?

The same one the South won the war?


Maybe its because I'm from the deep South where virtually everyone is conservative, but he'd have a hard time getting into any fraternity here even without the KA comments, the obama comments alone would be enough for many to show him the door.

[barbino]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

In what decade is Kappa Alpha living?

Having been a KA little sister while I was at Kentucky (UK), I can truly appreciate this comment. I was from the North (Chicago) and had alot of culture shock going on while I was a student there. OMG! There were people that really thought that the South would "rise again" and I never considered the Mason-Dixon line until I got to UK. Suddenly--there were these guys that liked to dress up in Confederate uniforms, they sang "Dixie" and had atrocious Southern accents. Then they kidnapped my Pi Phi pledge class and the next thing I knew I was a KA little sister, complete with a dark red rose and brothers from all areas of the South.

I remember them all, and I remember my two big brothers well. KA is a really special band of guys, but they are living in a bygone era. Life has changed since Gone With the Wind!

[PhiGam]

I wouldn't hammer an Obama supporter but I would hammer an Obama supporter who is stupid enough to think that they have a shot at being a KA.

[Benzgirl]

Hmmm.
Low Grades, Lack of Activities, No Leadership.
Yes, they didn't fit in.



ETA: It wasn't for race, religion, country of origination or socio-economic status.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Hmmm.
Low Grades, Lack of Activities, No Leadership.
Yes, they didn't fit in.



ETA: It wasn't for race, religion, country of origination or socio-economic status.

Maybe its just different where you are from, but certain people just do not fit into certain organizations. For instance, had I rushed anywhere in the North, they would have called me a douche for wearing Sperry, Costa Del Mar, and Ralph Lauren, and probably cut me for it. Fraternities are generally compromised of people with like interests, values, and such. All I am saying is someone who supports Obama, would not fit in my chapter, so really we would be doing him a favor cutting. And before you start bashing the SEC fraternities, how many white people do you know in BGLOs. It is no different.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by nate2512

how many white people do you know in BGLOs. It is no different.

Hmmmm, quite a few. Some even post here. Don't try to justify your own prejudices by using us.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Hmmmm, quite a few. Some even post here. Don't try to justify your own prejudices by using us.

And nonblacks who actually apply for membership (it doesn't happen in droves because of what BGLOs' larger aims are but it happens more at some campuses) tend not to be denied just because of their race or because of political/social views that have nothing to do with the sorority ideals.

Getting along with and relating to people in the chapter doesn't mean that there has to be a cookie cutter look or way of looking at the social world. As long as the person is not saying or doing things to undermine the organization, the rest is just an attempt at reinforcing an outdated status quo.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

And nonblacks who actually apply for membership (it doesn't happen in droves because of what BGLOs' larger aims are but it happens more at some campuses) tend not to be denied just because of their race or because of political/social views that have nothing to do with the sorority ideals.

So how is that not a double standard? You are saying that sometimes people are denied because of those reasons. Also, those are sororities and I have two black friends that were denied from black fraternities for being "sellouts." That is FAR worse in my opinion than KA denying someone for being a liberal, those black fraternities are missing out on upstanding young men just because their father's are successful and gave them a great education growing up.

Getting along with and relating to people in the chapter doesn't mean that there has to be a cookie cutter look or way of looking at the social world. As long as the person is not saying or doing things to undermine the organization, the rest is just an attempt at reinforcing an outdated status quo.

You are certainly free to run your organization in whatever way you see fit. I've never understood why people have a problem with a way an organization that they are not a part of is run internally. Perhaps its my southern upbringing that taught me to mind my own business and let others worry about theirs.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Hmmm.
Low Grades, Lack of Activities, No Leadership.
Yes, they didn't fit in.



ETA: It wasn't for race, religion, country of origination or socio-economic status.

We don't like taking guys who have personalities that don't mesh with our own. A fraternity is supposed to be a group of people that have similar tastes and interests, we aren't going to give a bid to somebody just because we think they can be a "leader in the fraternity," we have plenty of leaders as it is.

[PhiGam]

Anyway, we ended up with 16 pledges out of 19 bids given out and we only lost one guy to another fraternity. The two undecided guys had their bids extended to sunday because we really want them.

MISTAKES: One kid came to the house bragging about being a third string quarterback in high school... seriously. I also caught a few guys lying about being interested in golf so they got hammered. I'm very happy with our spring rush though, we probably had 50 guys come through here and we have one of the largest pledge classes on campus.

I also really hit it off with a few of the pledges including one kid who's a world class break dancer (not fratty by any means, but definitely a really solid guy who I pushed really hard to take his bid.) Now we have to give them all nicknames, we have already deemed two of them Chester and Legend.

[banditone]

Call the breakdancing guy Ozone or Turbo (or Special K).

[PhiGam]

Yeah, this debate belongs in a different thread so CUT IT OUT NOW please.