i hate COPS...

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
HAHA, been on both sides and it sucks!

Well which was it? A criminal defence attorney or a criminal defendant?

[Buddha MaMa]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Actually it's not. How is this guy a victim? The cop was DOING HIS JOB. Let's review:


* SOMEBODY called in this guy's plate number. There was a problem to start with.

* They were sitting in the car, loitering near a school on the side of an otherwise deserted public road.

* The cop asked a number of completely reasonable questions: have you been drinking? doing drugs? etc. -- reasonable especially considering the cop had a complaint related to THAT PLATE NUMBER and these two are just kind of hanging out on the side of a deserted road.

* Buddha admits, yeah, he uses pot.



Okay so what's the problem here?

The cop assumed Buddha uses pot? HE ADMITS THAT IT'S TRUE! That Buddha thinks the cop may have based this assumption on the way he dresses/grooms? Buddha admits this has been a problem in the past -- if it bothers you, change it.

This is like people who speed, then get pissed they were pulled over. You were speeding! And then you were a dick to the cop, and you're shocked you got a ticket?

The cop was doing his job, which was to investigate a complaint. You're not going to convince me a pot-smoking guy just chillin at the side of the road in a car with a plate number that's been called in as harassing kids at a school is in the right on this one.

Sorry.

dude, you just lost cool points.

first i am a female...

second, i was joking about the weed with rudey.

third, it is my right to sit on the side of the road with my thumb up my ass if i want as along as i am not violating anyone elses rights!!!!

i was eating popeye's chicken on my lunch break filing out grad school applications with my girlfriend.

the fact that you say my grooming may be a problem, this is the year 2005, you ass. just because i wear loccs doesn't mean a thing. if i had on a 2pac, biggie or a mumia t-shirt should that have gotten me questioned, especially if i was in a parking spot already?


think before you answer, please!!!

[Buddha MaMa]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu


Again, I think I'm okay with that. S/he was sitting in a parked car on the side of a deserted highway in a car matching the description of someone who was harassing students down the road.

And, to be honest, judging from the tone s/he used here, sounds like s/he was giving the cop shit, too.

I have no problem with the way the cop handled this situation.

first off....read the freaking beginning of the thread. i was in front of a university in tarrytown eating lunch and filling out grad school applications.

me and my girlfriend was the only person of color in the area. school was out for the afternoon.

my Poppa Buddha, my step father, my brother and two cousin are police officers. i know what CPR is. do you?


god, you sound like an idiot!!

*to be honest juding from the tone in my voice, i was giving the cop shit?*

yep another idiot has passed into this wayward system of ours. i feel for the kids you surround.

[Buddha MaMa]

the funny thing about the way hotdamn thinks is he automatically assumed that i was doing something wrong.

the cop did not greet me in a mannerly fashion. he did not use CPR. When i asked him if there was a problem officer, he said yes. that i am my girlfriend were seen harassing students on the campus. my girlfriend goes to fordham university and had her books in her lap. although there were applications all in the front seat. i had to put them down to give him my license. this fool put his nose in my drink to see if i was drinking alcohol. and had the nerve to ask me if i was smoking weed, because i had chicken crumbs in my lap.


ooooooooooooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

from the jump i was polite and answered all his questions politely although they were rude. i did not use a tone or any kind.

i am very familiar with how police officers work. and i understand how they do there job but that was not protocol. it is very sickening to know that hot damn assumes by the tone of my thread that i was in the wrong.

being from florida, i have been profiled several times having a car with new york plates. i have jumped up and down 95 north and south and have passed through little towns that wait for people like me to pass through because they need to earn some kind of money for there little hick towns. i have heard all types of bob marley jokes, weed jokes, dread jokes just because of my physical appearance. not to mention the n word. of course these are the same towns that happened to be handing out guns and badges to those red necks that live in them.


so racial profiling happens....

[Buddha MaMa]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
I'm sorry, but how are you wandering around in a Bob Marley shirt and dreds and then SHOCKED someone might have thought you MAY smoke weed?

i am sorry guys...i keep reading this post and i just makes me mad. it really does!!!


by the way..i wear red. so that makes me a Blood too, huh?

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Her attire DOES reflect her behavior. She admitted she smokes pot.

Why should it? So, because I sometime wear a Phish or a Grateful Dead t-shirt, that automatically make me a pothead or doing something illegal?

[HotDamnImAPhiMu]

Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
the funny thing about the way hotdamn thinks is he automatically assumed that i was doing something wrong..... i am very familiar with how police officers work. and i understand how they do there job but that was not protocol. it is very sickening to know that hot damn assumes by the tone of my thread that i was in the wrong.

Actually, I didn't. I said I agreed with how the cop handled the situation.

Though I do think your earlier admission to using pot weakens your statement that the cop had no right to ask if you'd been smoking.

This from a white girl who dresses ridiculously conservatively and drives a 10 year old Volvo and STILL gets asked if she smoked any weed/had anything to drink tonight. THAT'S THEIR JOB. I don't complain about it. Apparently if I wore a Bob Marley tshirt I'd be justified in complaining?

What part, do you think, about the post title "I HATE COPS" and your tone in the thread MIGHT MAKE others think you weren't cordial and civil to the cop? This from a girl whose father, step brother, brother, and two cousins are cop?

Sorry, not buying this. Next.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Actually, I didn't. I said I agreed with how the cop handled the situation.

Though I do think your earlier admission to using pot weakens your statement that the cop had no right to ask if you'd been smoking.

This from a white girl who dresses ridiculously conservatively and drives a 10 year old Volvo and STILL gets asked if she smoked any weed/had anything to drink tonight. THAT'S THEIR JOB. I don't complain about it. Apparently if I wore a Bob Marley tshirt I'd be justified in complaining?

What part, do you think, about the post title "I HATE COPS" and your tone in the thread MIGHT MAKE others think you weren't cordial and civil to the cop? This from a girl whose father, step brother, brother, and two cousins are cop?

Sorry, not buying this. Next.

This thread was a rant from a woman who was harrassed by a police officer and she wants to vent. The "tone" of this thread has nothing to do with her "tone" while speaking to the cop. You have no idea how she sounded while she was speaking to the cop. i would be mighty pissed too if I was harrassed by a cop.

You've never experience racial profiling, neither have I. But I've witnessed it first hand. You tell me when it's appropriate for a cop to pull someone over and repeatedly hurl racial slurs at them? The crime...an expired licence place sticker.

[HotDamnImAPhiMu]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
You tell me when it's appropriate for a cop to pull someone over and repeatedly hurl racial slurs at them? The crime...an expired licence place sticker.

So, you hate all police officers based on one experience you had?

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by valkyrie
If you know anything about probable cause, you know that wearing a Bob Marley tshirt (that a cop couldn't even see before he got up to the car so it certainly wasn't why he stopped) does not mean a police officer has a reason to stop someone. It doesn't matter if someone smokes pot every single day when she's at home. The cops must have a reasonable belief that she has committed, is committing or will commit a crime.

I think where we disagree here is that you're taking the cop's word that someone reported the car and I'm not. I think it's more likely than not that the cop never got a call and is just using the "report" as a reason to stop someone. I've seen stuff like that happen many times.

You are the smarterest ELAWYER ever.

And to throw some fun into this thread, perhaps Tom Earp went to People's College of Law!

[33girl]

Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
by the way..i wear red. so that makes me a Blood too, huh?

Well you know what I read one time?

Janet Jackson likes Popeye's chicken...therefore since you were eating Popeye's you must be just like Janet and are planning to flash your nipple at the next group of schoolchildren you see and CONTRIBUTE TO THE MORAL DECAY OF THIS NATION!!

-33, who is now really glad that she had to drive a few extra blocks and put her car in the Park & Ride next to Popeye's.

[Rudey]

I used to love eating Popeye's. It was the best. Don't get me started on teh bisquits. If I ate Popeye's, you could forget about work for the day. Heck, some days I did a Taco Bell and Popeye's combo lunch. Those were the good days.

-Rudey
--But now I'm a vegetarian and someone stole something good from my life

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
So, you hate all police officers based on one experience you had?

Tell me where I said I hated cops?

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by Rudey
I used to love eating Popeye's. It was the best. Don't get me started on teh bisquits. If I ate Popeye's, you could forget about work for the day. Heck, some days I did a Taco Bell and Popeye's combo lunch. Those were the good days.

-Rudey
--But now I'm a vegetarian and someone stole something good from my life

Popeye's chicken alone would keep me from being a vegetarian. You're obviously a stronger man than I.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by KSigkid
Popeye's chicken alone would keep me from being a vegetarian. You're obviously a stronger man than I.

What I miss the most is being able to order the crave case from white castle or like 40 tacos from taco bell with my boys and going to town.

-Rudey
--But given that I don't have the metabolism I used to, it's probably a good thing I don't do that.