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Old 05-04-2004, 11:05 AM
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If you guys are ging to claim superiority over each other I think you should base it totally on IQ (on the same test)and physique. Kind of like a genetic a superiority modified by small amounts of efforts.

Anything else is kind of intangible and involves so many outside variables over which you have so little control as to amount to Chance.

So which of you is the genius and which of you has the great body?
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Old 05-04-2004, 11:13 AM
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Hmmm you can dish it out but you can't take it. Pity.
Remember when you pretended you got accepted at Yale? Remember when you couldn't understand or read anything I said? Your post makes no sense so why don't you break it down for us while you're busy playing an instrument.

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Old 05-05-2004, 03:03 AM
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Now, back to our regularly scheduled topic...

It seems to me that people have jumped on the Kerry bandwagon just because they don't like Bush. I am still undecided, but I have yet to see anything truly compelling to make me vote for either candidate! Tell me, WHAT will make Kerry a good candidate...that DOESN'T have to do with Bush?

Also, Rudey, you should be on the next 'Apprentice'. You and Trump would get along well!

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Old 05-05-2004, 11:04 AM
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Now, back to our regularly scheduled topic...

It seems to me that people have jumped on the Kerry bandwagon just because they don't like Bush. I am still undecided, but I have yet to see anything truly compelling to make me vote for either candidate! Tell me, WHAT will make Kerry a good candidate...that DOESN'T have to do with Bush?

Also, Rudey, you should be on the next 'Apprentice'. You and Trump would get along well!

aj
Trump is the joke of the financial world. His father started him out with a cool $40MM. Trump has filed bankruptcy after bankruptcy all the while doing activities which I would clearly label as theft. Using high yield, high risk debt to finance his casinos and then taking the debt to throw it into his dying real estate empire while strong arming city administrations to give him ridiculous tax breaks is the biggest example. Oh and btw, I did try out for the apprentice and didn't cut it.

As for Kerry, I'm still waiting on any plan from him. I think the middle class misery index was a clear indicator that there is nothing there.

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Old 05-05-2004, 11:34 AM
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It seems to me that people have jumped on the Kerry bandwagon just because they don't like Bush.
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I think that is a fair assessment of this year's presidential race, but plenty of people have gotten elected for this very reason before. In Georgia, people largely voted against Governor Roy Barnes, not for Sonny Perdue. As a result, Sonny Perdue is having a really hard time running Georgia.
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Old 05-05-2004, 11:44 AM
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As I keep saying, this is going to be a wild election. We just had our Primary 2 weeks ago, and 26% of the Democrats did NOT vote for Kerry! Seeing as how this is "Heinz Country", that doesn't speak well for him at all! He's simply a "I'm not the other guy" candidate.
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Old 05-05-2004, 11:59 AM
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As I keep saying, this is going to be a wild election. We just had our Primary 2 weeks ago, and 26% of the Democrats did NOT vote for Kerry! Seeing as how this is "Heinz Country", that doesn't speak well for him at all! He's simply a "I'm not the other guy" candidate.
When the other guy doesn't believe 50% of the population deserves human rights, that's good enough.
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Old 05-05-2004, 12:06 PM
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When the other guy doesn't believe 50% of the population deserves human rights, that's good enough.
What does that mean?

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Old 05-05-2004, 05:37 PM
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Re: why I'm voting for John Kerry

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Because he was in Vietnam. Somebody who was in Vietnam should be president. They got treated like shit when they came back, and it took several acts of congress for them to even get basic stuff. I think I'm pretty tough mentally, but from pictures, books, movies, etc I've seen about Vietnam, I think I would have gone insane. War is Hell, and that war... I don't know what to say about it.

Okay, and now I have a question...how is Bush going to attack Kerry's military service record?
Kerry=Three Purple Hearts
Bush=awol from the Air Guard.

It was only a few months ago that you were in love with Howard Dean who was anti-war.

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Old 05-08-2004, 07:20 AM
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Why am I voting for Kerry?

#1) Because I agree with his stance on almost all of the issues that are important to ME. (healthcare, education, the environment/energy, civil rights, etc.)

#2) Because all of the Presidents we have had since I have been politically aware (since Ford) have been Governors. I think that being a Governor gives you some strengths but I am very interested in seeing how someone who has been in Washington for a long time does things differently. Running a state is different than running a country. I think that a member of Congress has a better understanding of the country as a whole, rather than their own region. I think they also have a better understanding of foreign affairs (although Jimmy Carter learned a lot while President and continues to be a great foreign diplomat).

#3) Because the Supreme Court is already leaning to the right. One or more of them are probably going to have to be replaced in the near future and I worry about it being too conservative. I would rather see the 5-4 split lean to the left, because I'm liberal myself.

#4) He voted for the Equal Rights Amendment.

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Old 05-08-2004, 03:31 PM
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hmmmmmm...I'm watching 20/20, and Kerry's wife Theresa is on it. If he gets my vote, it only be because of her! She seems pretty cool!

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Old 05-09-2004, 06:17 PM
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Old 05-12-2004, 08:49 AM
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Re: why I'm voting for John Kerry

John Kerry, are you nucking futs? I mean, we need a President with a backbone, right? That's not John Kerry. We need someone with some balls, not taking shit from anyone, laying down the law, protecting our borders. That's George Bush, not John Kerry.

If you blame the flat economy on George Bush, you better go back to Economics 101. If you blame the war on terror on George Bush, think again. If you blame 9/11 on the Bush Administration, you're wrong.

Whether you like George Bush or not, the U.S. is not ready for a Presidential change. A new President will pull out of Iraq and stop supporting our allies in the Middle East, and you will see all holy hell break out on the other side of the world, and continued terrorits attacks on our soil.

The worst thing for America right now is for a new Administration, especially the Kerry camp.

George Bush for another 4.


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Because he was in Vietnam. Somebody who was in Vietnam should be president. They got treated like shit when they came back, and it took several acts of congress for them to even get basic stuff. I think I'm pretty tough mentally, but from pictures, books, movies, etc I've seen about Vietnam, I think I would have gone insane. War is Hell, and that war... I don't know what to say about it.

Okay, and now I have a question...how is Bush going to attack Kerry's military service record?
Kerry=Three Purple Hearts
Bush=awol from the Air Guard.
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Old 05-12-2004, 11:19 AM
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Even some Republicans think Kerry would be just as strong in defense that Bush if. John McCain being the most vocal.

The scare tactic vote for Bush or the terrorist wins is a weak one. It's more like an act of desperation because usually a candidate wins with his merits not by scaring people into voting for him.
Kerry already said he would have them stay in Iraq till the job was finished because we shouldn't leave the country in a mess. And to say any candidate would let the country fall apart and let terrorist attack out country without trying to do anything to stop it is weak. Every candidate has America security tops on their list. Just because some would not have invaded Iraq to start does not mean anything. Oh yes we really prevented terrorism by invading Iraq. All the Arab and Muslim world loves us now because of it. I think we helped make more terrorist and will be more likely to be attacked on our soil now that before the Iraq war.
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Old 05-12-2004, 11:24 AM
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Even some Republicans think Kerry would be just as strong in defense that Bush if. John McCain being the most vocal.

The scare tactic vote for Bush or the terrorist wins is a weak one. It's more like an act of desperation because usually a candidate wins with his merits not by scaring people into voting for him.
Kerry already said he would have them stay in Iraq till the job was finished because we shouldn't leave the country in a mess. And to say any candidate would let the country fall apart and let terrorist attack out country without trying to do anything to stop it is weak. Every candidate has America security tops on their list. Just because some would not have invaded Iraq to start does not mean anything. Oh yes we really prevented terrorism by invading Iraq. All the Arab and Muslim world loves us now because of it. I think we helped make more terrorist and will be more likely to be attacked on our soil now that before the Iraq war.
Actually stop acting as if Democrats would not have invaded Iraq. Kerry voted to invade. People like Hillary Clinton, who is considered one of the most prominent Democrats, also want to. The difference is in the aftermath, with Clinton saying she thinks we didn't devote enough resources to it and bungled it up while Kerry voted against funding after Saddam fell.

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