why I'm voting for John Kerry
 

Because he was in Vietnam. Somebody who was in Vietnam should be president. They got treated like shit when they came back, and it took several acts of congress for them to even get basic stuff. I think I'm pretty tough mentally, but from pictures, books, movies, etc I've seen about Vietnam, I think I would have gone insane. War is Hell, and that war... I don't know what to say about it.

Okay, and now I have a question...how is Bush going to attack Kerry's military service record? :eek: :confused:
Kerry=Three Purple Hearts
Bush=awol from the Air Guard.

yea- i bet they have tried to attack his war record but it wasn't too successful... i bet they'll try to stay away from now on..

as far as why i'm voting for him... women's rights..military stance... education funding... gay/lesbian rights....

i just can't take 4 more years....

Re: why I'm voting for John Kerry
 

AWOL? Says who?

And "treated like shit when the came back"? By whom? People like Kerry is whom.

-Rudey

Re: why I'm voting for John Kerry
 

Interesting. I know a LOT of Viet Nam Veterans, courtesy of having a much older brother (I'll be 99 years old, and they'll still call me Baby Sister!). NOT ONE of them came back without some semblence of a drug problem. I praise the Lord that my brother turned his life over to Christ and was delivered of his addictions, but I've been to the funerals of too many men who died with a needle in the arm. These were all upper-middle/middle-middle class men, not your "average druggie". I will be the first to admit that this sample is not perpetuated throughout the country, but this is my experience.

As for Kerry's one Purple Heart, please remember that his commanding officer was against him receiving it, but they were given fairly liberally at the time.

Between Kerry's flip-flopping on the issues and his history of plaguerism, I'd vote for Nadar first.



ps - this is going to be one ugly election!!

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Re: why I'm voting for John Kerry
 

just how someone who dodged the draft was president...ah, it all makes sense now..... :rolleyes: it doesn't matter to anyone what their military background is......it's all about their political background. so dems, get off your high horse about kerry being so great in military services and bush being crap/awol. your beloved clinton was a draft dodger.

next?


apologizing early for generalizing about democrats......i try to play nice, honest....but sometimes.......

I love this web site:

http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbuti...rhimanyway.com

hahahah that site is freaking CLASSIC i love it!

now- to clarify some things.... i am not alllll about kerry- he definately has his downfalls and i want to vote for nader but i'm still voting for kerry anyway... b/c i just can't take bush anymore! !!! !!!!!

as far as the draft dodging... purple heart debate yadda yadda... i really don't know too much about it- i mean... i definately don't think bush was in the right... but kerry is kind of "glorifying" his war credibility... but he has too- especially if he wants to win...

i mean... if he didn't- then people who are upset about the war and the stuff going on now- wouldn't vote for him...

its politics... :rolleyes:


lol- good point mon about clinton i think he was a good president and great for the economy and i like him... but he had his moments too

Co-sign!
Better yet, I am not voting for Kerry, I am voting AGAINST Bush! :D

Haha, I think that's most of us liberals. There's a community on orkut "AnyoneButBush in 2004" with over 3000 members, and I think that sums it up for many Democrats. (Side note, found out today that Kerry is a member of orkut! He sent me a message, along with everyone else in AnyoneButBush.) I'm voting for Nader because Kerry will obviously win in MA.

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I don't really want to nitpick and this isn't an attack but from what I understand, Kerry received three purple hearts, not one. One for each "wound" that was inflicted on Kerry. Whether these were "life threatening wounds" or not, I can not say because I was not there. But I do understand that in this era there was a lot of frustration from officers in regards to soldiers receiving the purple heart. I read an article where Kerry's commanding officer at the time said that purple hearts were "coming down in boxes." Yet, no matter how minor or how serious these wounds were, he received purple hearts for them.

My grandfather told me a story about how he was first wounded in Korea (a leg wound that put him out of service for a few weeks) and he was told he wouldn't receive a purple heart for it, and I guess it was no big deal to him. But not long after that he was shot through the mouth (knocking out all of his teeth) as well as taking a bullet to his spinalcord (paralyzing him), he found out that he was going to receive two purple hearts for those wounds as well as another for when he was wounded in the leg.

Service is service, wounded or not, purple heart or not.

I thought about replying to this post, but after reading the first one, I realized it is for the exclusive use of those under 21 and with a limited ability to read, observe, discuss, apply deductive reasoning, and have limited life experiences.
What an ill-informed post - Kerry went to Vietnam and was treated like shit - my ass, kid. The whole mistreatment thing was so freaking overblown it might as well be a fairy tale.
Here's the short story and the truth: Soldiers often used San Francisco Airport as their entry point upon returning from Nam, and a very small group of hippie homeless used it to stand in groups and make smart remarks about being baby killers to these young soldiers - most of them YOUR age - who had just come back from a war they had been DRAFTED for. You would not know what a draft was, since there is now a volunteer army.
Anyway, this was covered by the press and other hippie losers did the same thing, but the effort was weak and disorganized. These scum were usually tripped out or stoned and didn't know whether to scratch their watches or wind their asses.

This was MY era, and I know what I'm talking about.

John Kerry came from wealth and privelege, and upon his return, he joined the V.V.A.W. and used that group in a cynical fashion to launch a political career. He made outrageous accusations against his own fellow vets because he knew that would put him in the public eye. Never mind that none of his accusations were proved.
This is a man who has never worked a day in his life outside elective office. He married his first wife and used her huge fortune to get himself elected, and he jumped on a dead Republican's wife after dumping his first one so that he could get hooked up with some SERIOUS money - Mrs. Kerry's first husband John Heinz was a Republican!
This election is not about who served in Vietnam. John Kerry himself in 1992 said that all discussions about who served and who did not were NO LONGER RELEVANT - this in defense of Bill Clinton. I agreed with him back then and I still take that position, but apparently it is just one more Kerry flip-flop.

So, if one is required to have served in Vietnam in order to be President, can I be a fly on the wall when Hillary Clinton is informed of this? That oughta be fun. Of course, I'm sure you will be voting for HER opponent if they happened to serve in Vietnam, right? Ladies and gentlemen, I will send a letter to John McCain right now. Talk about someone who was treated like "shit". I guess if that is the criteria, he'll win in a landslide.

I have absolutely no problem with Kerry's service. I do not care if he deserved that medal or he didn't because I, as an American, am impressed by anyone who serves their country.

I do have a problem with what Kerry did after the war. I find that to be so insulting and treacherous that it wipes away the respect I had for him being there.

http://www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm

And I think that is how a lot of people might feel as well. It's not as much the issue of draft dodging, fighting wars, etc. because McCain would be president and Clinton would never have served even one term.

-Rudey

No matter your views or your beliefs, it's not right to deduct that people under the age of 21 have a limited ability to read, observe and apply deductive reasoning. This is a forum to discuss, not bash. There are many people under the age of 21 who have had many a life experience, some limited, some not.

For the sake of your argument, I hope that you will qwell the semi-attacks next time. I've read this under 21, college-educated stereotype in your posts more than once. All college-educated persons should be above that, no?

Applause for damasa!

Honestly this election will be like most others in the past: a choice between two evils. I don't like either one. They're both sketchy silver spoon politicians. What else can you expect here?