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08-21-2003, 11:50 PM
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RU-486 cannot be used for abortions... You said it yourself... Many researchers have the drug and use it on animals for whatever reason, but it is not approved for the use in humans...
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Okay, now I'm really confused. This is what I got off of the Planned Parenthood site:
Mifepristone provides women with a medical alternative to aspiration (suction) abortion. Mifepristone, approved for use as an abortifacient by the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on September 28, 2000, is an antiprogesterone drug that blocks receptors of progesterone, a key hormone in the establishment and maintenance of human pregnancy. Mifepristone induces spontaneous abortion when administered in early pregnancy and followed by a dose of misoprostol, a prostaglandin.
But, there's a reason I'm going to be an architect--I don't do science.  Is there a difference between Mifepristone and RU-486?
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I nearly got cursed out asking how a woman who found out she had HIV because her first child was born with AIDS--but on her second child's birth, the child was HIV-free because the mother took AIDS antivirals during her pregnancy... I was like, WTF, HOLD UP--HOW IS SHE GETTING PREGNANT THE 2ND TIME??? And she cain't affort any Artificial Insemination or SIF??? And the MD researchers were like, we have NO idea what AIDS antiviral cocktails do to the unborn fetus...
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If there's one thing that I consider myself a conservative about, it's the fact that I'm completely close-minded about safer sex. There's just no question or grey area. BE SAFE.
If I had to do what you do, I'd get cursed out all the time.
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08-22-2003, 02:14 AM
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i hate to weigh in on the this conversation, but chlorine kills things in pools! his "noodle" (as my 3 yro nephew calls it) had to be NEARLY inside for that to happen.
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08-22-2003, 07:04 AM
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Yes, you can be pregnant and still have your period.
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08-22-2003, 10:00 AM
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You guys are cracking me up!
I had to explain to my mother that a woman releases on egg a month during ovulation and she was like "Oh- so how do twins happen!" god love her!
As for the RH factor thing-
when I got my card from the red cross I found out I don't have either of my parents blood types!
My dad is A+ my mom is B+ and I have AB+ blood!
Oh and whomever started the RH factor talk- there is no such thing as Double O anything for a blood type!
The rarest blood is AB negative however.
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08-22-2003, 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by ilovemyglo
As for the RH factor thing-
when I got my card from the red cross I found out I don't have either of my parents blood types!
My dad is A+ my mom is B+ and I have AB+ blood!
Oh and whomever started the RH factor talk- there is no such thing as Double O anything for a blood type!
The rarest blood is AB negative however.
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You actually have both of your parents' blood types (A + B = AB).
Anyone who is O blood type actually has the genotype OO (because they got 1 O gene from each of their parents), which may be where he was getting the idea of double-O from. But, as someone else (probably AKA_Monet) said, blood type doesn't affect your ability to reproduce.
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08-22-2003, 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by Munchkin03
Okay, now I'm really confused. This is what I got off of the Planned Parenthood site:
Mifepristone provides women with a medical alternative to aspiration (suction) abortion. Mifepristone, approved for use as an abortifacient by the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on September 28, 2000, is an antiprogesterone drug that blocks receptors of progesterone, a key hormone in the establishment and maintenance of human pregnancy. Mifepristone induces spontaneous abortion when administered in early pregnancy and followed by a dose of misoprostol, a prostaglandin.
But, there's a reason I'm going to be an architect--I don't do science. Is there a difference between Mifepristone and RU-486?
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I haven't kept up with the literature regarding the use of abortion drugs. So, I will have to look into it... But from what I understand, which I could be wrong, I do not think that the abortion drugs are "allowed" for human use in the United States...
These drugs are rather peculiar in their actions from what I understand. One has to take them at least 3 times over a 1-2 week period? And it is like it is causing a "spontaneous abortion" or miscarriage, which can be harmful to the mother simply because of the huge blood loss. Careful monitoring must be done. And if a patient does not follow the regimen, then ending the pregnancy is not ensured--no telling what that does to a fetus or the mother...
Someone said about the ABO blood grouping and differences in phenotype and genotype...
Remember--basic genetics:
Phenotype is: what you see is what you get...
Genotype is: what is exactly, physically present in a piece of DNA...
My mother is A, phenotypically, my father is O--in order to be completely O and not any other, my father MUST be OO, genotypically... Which makes me an AO genotype--definitely... That suggests my mother is AA, genotypically... Make sense?
PM me if it does not... I had to teach my students this difference all the time...
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08-22-2003, 03:04 PM
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What about TYPE O NEGATIVE!!! Rock and Roll LIVES!!!!!!
Man, this thread is cool! Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll!!!!
Nothing like a little head bangers ball baby!!!! Type O negative is one of the best Bans in the whole world!!!!!!!!!
(Obviously, I am kidding)
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08-23-2003, 03:56 PM
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Re: Can you be pregnant....
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Can you be pregnant and still have your period? I"ve heard mixed answers....
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God, I hope not. Then I really wouldn't feel well at all.
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09-04-2003, 10:15 PM
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09-05-2003, 03:21 PM
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I read this thread before and was really confused. Are you guys saying people who have had UNPROTECTED sex and still have their "period" can be pregnant. what about peoplle who use the pill properly and a condom? Most of us do that, so then can a girl still be pregnant if she has her NORMAL "period" after all that?
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Usually, a woman who has had unprotected sex and becomes pregnant might have a "spotty like" period--not the full on "chunky" really bloody like period--that some of us ladies, endure monthly...
I know of a woman who had no clue that she was pregnant. She said she had her period. When I asked her if it were "spotty", she answered, "Yes, but it has been like that for awhile and I thought that it was because I was close to 40 years old..."
Well at least she found out in time enough that it did not put the child in jeopardy with prenatal care...
Anyhow, if there is massive weight gain within 2-3 months, spotty periods and changes in eating habits, it is highly suggestable that a woman ought to see a doctor and take the pregnancy test...
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09-05-2003, 06:07 PM
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there is such thing as "implantation bleeding" it happens when the embryo floats down into the uterus and implants into the uterine lining, causing anything from spottying to period like bleeding. You can also cramp during this time - it is your uterus expanding.
There are also things called chemical pregnancies - where there is enough HcG to cause a + pregnancy test, but for whatever reason the embryo doesn't implant and passes right through....the woman would have a heavier than normal period as usually never know. So 'technically' she could be pregnant and have a period.
Spotting or not, what you think is a period or not, a home pregnancy test that measure at least 40 HcG is 99% accurate as soon as your period is late
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09-05-2003, 06:12 PM
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the abortion pills are not allowed for human use in the United States, they are however used all over Europe.
RU-486 is commonly known as the morning after pill. You can take it up to 72 hours after sex to prevent pregnancy. All it does is prevent the fertilized embyro to implant in the uterine wall. It does not, however, do anything if the embryo is already implanted. I'm not sure of the side effects on the baby is taken when you are already pregnant.
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09-05-2003, 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by MereMere21
the abortion pills are not allowed for human use in the United States, they are however used all over Europe.
RU-486 is commonly known as the morning after pill. You can take it up to 72 hours after sex to prevent pregnancy. All it does is prevent the fertilized embyro to implant in the uterine wall. It does not, however, do anything if the embryo is already implanted. I'm not sure of the side effects on the baby is taken when you are already pregnant.
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I was told that RU-486 blocks the bonds that forms the umbilical cord onto the uterine wall...
As I understand it, once the embryo has reached the fetal stage, there are complex multiple bonds the form the umbilical cord and it would be too difficult for just one RU-486 treatment to break those bonds. As a result, RU-486 would act in other places--meaning that it could cause harm to the fetus. If the fetus was brought to partuition, then there could be birth defects...
Per the FDA website about the drug interaction and teratogenic affects as seen in lab animals: "Skull defects, cranial nerve palsies, delayed growth and psychomotor development, facial malformation and limb defects have all been reported after exposure during the first trimester."
Munchkin03--I guess you are correct about RU-486... See website:
RU-486
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09-05-2003, 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by AKA_Monet
I was told that RU-486 blocks the bonds that form the umbilical cord formation onto the uterine wall...
As I understand it, once the embryo has reached the fetal stage, there are complex multiple bonds the form the umbilical cord and it would be too difficult for just one RU-486 treatment to break those bonds. As a result, RU-486 would act in other places--meaning that it could cause harm to the fetus. If the fetus was brought to partuition, then there could be birth defects...
Per the FDA website about the drug interaction and teratogenic affects as seen in lab animals: "Skull defects, cranial nerve palsies, delayed growth and psychomotor development, facial malformation and limb defects have all been reported after exposure during the first trimester."
Munchkin03--I guess you are correct about RU-486... See website:
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exactly right - when an embryo links onto the uterine wall, that bond eventually becomes the placenta and umbilical cord
wow all of those side effects are pretty awful. This explains why they say don't wait to until the full 72 hours to take RU-486
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04-27-2004, 11:25 AM
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Warning
If anyone is taking Ortho-Lo, you may want to use backup birth control or switch to something else. My friend's cousin got pregnant while she was on Ortho-Lo and she didn't know it. She was feeling sick, so she went to the doctor. After running some tests, the doctor told her she was pregnant, and get this - she was 5 months along. She hadn't gained any weight and she was still getting her period. She immediately went off the pill, and luckily, there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the baby. The doctor said that the problem is probably that she was on a stronger dosage before she went on Ortho-Lo, so her body wasn't used to such minimal hormone levels and she started ovulating again. Scary stuff!
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