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Old 12-14-2008, 03:53 PM
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50 jobs barely merits a press release. It deserves, even less, to be mentioned in any major city's newspaper.

I personally don't think GM's choice to spend less money on ads is very intelligent. It would seem to me that at a time like this, they can least afford not to be advertising like crazy.
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50 jobs barely merits a press release. It deserves, even less, to be mentioned in any major city's newspaper.

I personally don't think GM's choice to spend less money on ads is very intelligent. It would seem to me that at a time like this, they can least afford not to be advertising like crazy.
Isn't that the same thing? Less money on adds does equal not advertising like crazy.

50-200 jobs is a lot. Because it adds on to the thousands of other jobs that have already been lost.

Did anyone listen to Debbie Stabenow's speech that night?
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But their products are awesome! I will never willingly purchase an American made car for myself unless my choices are so severely limited that it's "do or die." I only buy Japanese vehicles. My husband, on the other hand, had a Ford and now a Pontiac. It's a house divided.
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Old 12-15-2008, 07:02 PM
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But their products are awesome! I will never willingly purchase an American made car for myself unless my choices are so severely limited that it's "do or die." I only buy Japanese vehicles. My husband, on the other hand, had a Ford and now a Pontiac. It's a house divided.
Yep. I was thinking that when driving around today in my father's Denali. It's got 85K miles on it, has been immaculately maintained, they bought it new, and it's already having engine trouble.

My wife and I both have Hondas. We've been together now for gosh.. 6-7 years or so? Between the two of us, I think we've had my car in the shop once when the motor on one of my power windows gave out.
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My wife and I both have Hondas.
I'm sorry...
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:08 PM
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Don't be. I'm in law school. My priorities right now do not include having a luxury car. My car gets decent mileage, it's extremely reliable, it's paid for, and actually pretty comfortable.

Actually, to my mind, on the list of 'stuff worth spending lots of cash on,' a luxury car is pretty far down the list.
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:01 PM
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But their products are awesome! I will never willingly purchase an American made car for myself unless my choices are so severely limited that it's "do or die." I only buy Japanese vehicles.
Why? I currently have a german auto but I would buy a Detroit car if it was actually NICE. Like comparable to a BMW or an Audi in the sense of style, use of premium materials and overall drive of the beast. The new 2010 Mustang looks promising...
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Why? I currently have a german auto but I would buy a Detroit car if it was actually NICE. Like comparable to a BMW or an Audi in the sense of style, use of premium materials and overall drive of the beast. The new 2010 Mustang looks promising...
My brother had a BMW and I thought it was the ugliest thing ever. I thought my Ford Edge was nicer than that. Sure it had the power to go like 0-100 real quick but who needs that unless you plan on racing it? I don't think Mercedes are nice either. I think a Cadilac or even a Lexus (preferably the RX) are way nicer.
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:19 PM
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My brother had a BMW and I thought it was the ugliest thing ever. I thought my Ford Edge was nicer than that. Sure it had the power to go like 0-100 real quick but who needs that unless you plan on racing it? I don't think Mercedes are nice either. I think a Cadilac or even a Lexus (preferably the RX) are way nicer.
Cadillac's are nice if you're in your 60's, and at the end of the day a Lexus is nothing but a ricer in a sharp suit. The Edge is one of the nicest things FoMoCo has put out in the last decade for sure, but lets not be unrealistic in our comparisons.
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:11 PM
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But their products are awesome! I will never willingly purchase an American made car for myself unless my choices are so severely limited that it's "do or die." I only buy Japanese vehicles. My husband, on the other hand, had a Ford and now a Pontiac. It's a house divided.
My parents are big on American autos, but I've never had much luck. My wife and I both have foreign autos, and we haven't had a problem. Plus, the safety features on our previous foreign auto essentially saved our life when we were hit by a drunk driver, so we're pretty loyal.
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:21 PM
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This is an interesting article on Ford's positioning within the "Detroit 3" -- I think I've mentioned in other threads that I've been a fan of Mulally since his Boeing days. He still impresses me. http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...nterview_N.htm
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:21 PM
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Some headlines in Detroit today:
2009 Motor Trend Truck of the Year: Ford F-150
Toyota puts off opening of Prius plant in South
Downturn caused it, automaker says
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:37 PM
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Some headlines in Detroit today:
2009 Motor Trend Truck of the Year: Ford F-150
Toyota puts off opening of Prius plant in South
Downturn caused it, automaker says
Ah, yes, but both the Car (Nissan somethingorother) and SUV (Subaru Forester) of the year are foreign-made. Doesn't "Truck of the Year" usually go to a domestic maker?

I don't own a car right now (yay NYC!), but if I were, I'd go foreign.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:28 PM
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Last year's Truck of the Year was a Toyota.
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