Politics 2008:The Caucuses and The Dem/Rep Conventions

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

If I was a Republican, I'd beat McCain with a bag of nickles for picking this woman.

LOL. I need this stitched on a pillow, STAT!

[TonyB06]

I know it was a jacked up format, but Gwen Ifill (who I respect as a reporter) didn't have her best night. She let Palin run buckwild in terms of not answering what was asked, but rather what she had prepared to say.

Ifill also should have followed up more on some areas -- particularly when Palin discussed some sort of "expanded role" for the vice president?!? I wanted to have her asked for more information on that.

I thought Biden brought it pretty much most of the night. He lapsed into "SenateSpeak" a few times and Ifill should have shut that down, but he seemed more in command of what he was saying.

I think Palin did more to defend her rep (after the last two weeks) than she did to defend McCain. Biden listed a series of open ended questions asking specifically how McCain/Palin would be different the current Bush administration. Amazingly, Palin just let that sit out there, unanswered.

Ok, I'm watching some of the re-air (it's about 1:40 a.m. and why I'm not in bed I don't know) and Gwen did interrupt and redirect a little more than I thought earlier, so props to Ifill on that.

[Confucius]

I am sick of Palin's youdling (sp), countryfide, joe-six pack lingo...."Well alrighty then." "Here we go again." "Gotcha." I do not think she did a good job at all. And I am sick of people setting the bar low for her. Mediocracy / Rehearsed script is not acceptable.

Did anyone see the vote that Solidad conducted with CNN's undecided voters after the debate? Ok, what the hell? She asked everyone if they thought that Obama would win: most of them raised their hands.

Then she asked if they would vote for Obama: Only 25% of the people raised their hands. WTF??

Racism at its finest.

[StarFish106]

All she did was save herself, I don't think she helped McCain. At this point she was losing folks in her own party so she had more on the line than anyone.

SC you hit the nail on the head on how she rephrases the ?? in her head and answers the way she wants to answer regardless of what is asked but didn't she actually say that what she would do that? Something along the lines of 'I'm not gonna answer the questions "the way you want me to" but I'll talk about my record?" What does she have dyslexic hearing or something?

Joey was cool I and I am happy about that. I would love to be a fly on the wall when he was talking to his people off the record about what he thinks about her knowledge of things.

The one thing that was cool was at least they could give each other credit for things that they had done. McCain wouldn't credit Obama for a damn thing.

She didn't sound like an idiot as much as she has lately but they are not exactly known for their brilliance either. When did we get in the habit of rewarding mediocrity?

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally Posted by Confucius

I am sick of Palin's youdling (sp), countryfide, joe-six pack lingo...."Well alrighty then." "Here we go again." "Gotcha." I do not think she did a good job at all. And I am sick of people setting the bar low for her. Mediocracy / Rehearsed script is not acceptable.

Did anyone see the vote that Solidad conducted with CNN's undecided voters after the debate? Ok, what the hell? She asked everyone if they thought that Obama would win: most of them raised their hands.

Then she asked if they would vote for Obama: Only 25% of the people raised their hands. WTF??

Racism at its finest.

I was listening to NPR earlier this week and they were conducting a similar poll. One man said that he did believe Obama would win, but he wasn't going to vote for him because (and hold on to your seat) if Obama won then blacks would go crazy since we (blacks) have an axe to grind with "America".

[unspokenone25]

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91

Who the HECK was she winking at? wtf?

I was wondering the same thing. I think she took her cues from watching SNL because Tina Fey winked alot in her sketches. I have to admit. The winks did kind of make her "adorable."

Originally Posted by RedefinedDiva

I spent a lot of time yelling at the television. *Sigh!*

Me too. I yelled, "ANSWER THE ******* QUESTIONS ALREADY!!!" *sigh*

I promise. If this woman becomes the VP, I'm moving to Belize. I've already packed a bag by the door for my moment to flee.

[Velocity_14]

Originally Posted by Confucius

Did anyone see the vote that Solidad conducted with CNN's undecided voters after the debate? Ok, what the hell? She asked everyone if they thought that Obama would win: most of them raised their hands.

Then she asked if they would vote for Obama: Only 25% of the people raised their hands. WTF??

Racism at its finest.

I thought that was a interesting as well...I'm trying to be good but you are absolutely right...mediocracy is NOT acceptable....its funny though who can get away with it. Had this been Obama they would be having a field day...and oh Lawd...dont let one of his kids get pregnant out of wedlock....

[Velocity_14]

Originally Posted by unspokenone25

I promise. If this woman becomes the VP, I'm moving to Belize. I've already packed a bag by the door for my moment to flee.

My homegirl and I were just talking about how we need to get our passports and move out of the country for a few years if McCain wins....this is just ridiculous....

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by unspokenone25

The winks did kind of make her "adorable."
Me too. I yelled, "ANSWER THE ******* QUESTIONS ALREADY!!!" *sigh*

I promise. If this woman becomes the VP, I'm moving to Belize. I've already packed a bag by the door for my moment to flee.

I wish it was live like the Apollo used to be. I would've had to buy out the produce department so that I'd have enough to throw at her.

Originally Posted by Velocity_14

My homegirl and I were just talking about how we need to get our passports and move out of the country for a few years if McCain wins....this is just ridiculous....

Im trying to plan now because once McCain gets in the dollar will be worth less than toilet paper...Oh wait it already is. If Palin is Veep I'm moving to Venezuela.

[mccoyred]

Frankly, my expectation of her was so low that as long as she showed up, she improved in my book. You could tell that most of her answers were scripted. When she had to veer off her talking points, she threw in Alaska (I cringe every time she says the word!) or some nonsensical phrase or just repeats what she just said. She did have that deer in the headlights look a few times - global warming, Afghanistan, healthcare. This woman should be nowhere near the button.

OTOH, Joey hit it out of the park. He took it to McSame because he was there in the Senate and he KNEW the real deal; Palin had no clue about McSame's voting record! He also refused to cede her the working class or working parent playing field; his moment about his son's was genuine. He did have to pull himself together and restrain himself from calling her a flat out liar after she basically called him one. You remember the exchange about the general in Afghanistan? Apparently she got his name wrong but I will need to see the fact check to see who got the story right because I don't know myself.

ETA: Here is one fact check...http://news.aol.com/political-machin...e-pesky-facts/ ...she DID lie!

All in all, it was worth staying up and having to take a midday nap...

[Confucius]

Originally Posted by Velocity_14

I thought that was a interesting as well...I'm trying to be good but you are absolutely right...mediocracy is NOT acceptable....its funny though who can get away with it. Had this been Obama they would be having a field day...and oh Lawd...dont let one of his kids get pregnate out of wedlock....

^^^I'm SAYIN..Can you imagine if one of Obama's daughter's turned up pregnant and unmarried It would have been over!!!

[KAPPAtivating]

Originally Posted by Confucius

^^^I'm SAYIN..Can you imagine if one of Obama's daughter's turned up pregnant and unmarried It would have been over!!!

Hell, it would have been EXPECTED...

[Confucius]

Palin makes Obama terrorist claim
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Sarah Palin accuses Obama of associating with 'a domestic terrorist'

US Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin has accused the Democratic presidential candidate, Barack Obama, of associating with terrorists.

She said he had been "palling around" with an ex-member of US-based militant group Weather Underground, which opposed the Vietnam War in the 1960s.

Mr Obama once served on a charity board with a member of the group, but he has denounced its activities.

A Democratic spokesman accused the Republicans of gutter politics.

"What's clear is that John McCain and Sarah Palin would rather spend their time tearing down Barack Obama than laying out a plan to build up our economy," Hari Sevugan said.

Commentators say Mrs Palin's attack forms part of a broader Republican strategy to attack Mr Obama's character.

Denunciation

Speaking to supporters in Colorado and later in a Los Angeles suburb, Alaska Governor Palin said the time had come to take the gloves off.


Quoting a New York Times article, she attacked Senator Obama over his link to Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground, which waged a violent campaign against the Vietnam War.

The group was blamed for a number of bombings in the US in the 1960s.

Mrs Palin described Mr Obama as someone who saw the US "as being so imperfect... he is palling around with terrorists who would target their own country".

Mr Obama served on a charity board several years ago with Mr Ayers, who is now a professor at the University of Illinois.

The White House hopeful, who was a child when Weather Underground was active, has denounced Mr Ayers' radical past.

Focus on healthcare

The Alaska governor also said she wished the McCain campaign had not this week pulled out of the battleground state of Michigan, effectively conceding it to the Democrats.

Mr Obama meanwhile attacked the healthcare plans of Republican presidential nominee John McCain.

Speaking to some 18,000 people at a rally in Virginia, Senator Obama described the Arizona senator's policy as "radical" and claimed 20 million people would be left out by it.

HAVE YOUR SAY I'm a McCain supporter, but Palin really needs to fire the person who told her to say that J Young, USA

A spokesman for Mr McCain, who is in his home state preparing for Tuesday's second presidential debate, said that was "a bald-faced lie".

Healthcare is important to voters and the Obama campaign has unveiled new adverts attacking Mr McCain on the issue in every battleground state.

Mr Obama's Virginia rally came ahead of a Monday deadline for voters to register there and in more than a dozen other states, including Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and Florida.

Voter turnout could be vital in deciding the outcome of the 4 November presidential election.

Meanwhile, viewing figures show a record 69.9 million people tuned in to watch Mrs Palin take part in Thursday's televised vice-presidential debate with Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...as/7653132.stm

Published: 2008/10/05 11:57:13 GMT

© BBC MMVIII

Oh Great! Now Obama was a Child Terrorist! Barack was born in 1961...so...how exactly did he participate. From this point on, the Republicans have gone too far.

[jitterbug13]

The only things they can tie Obama with Ayers is that they were in this committee together and that they live in the same neighborhood. The Rev. Wright thing eventually failed, so do they think this is going to work?

This is what happens when they let the moose loose (thanks Mom for the quote!). Her and McSame need to GTHOOH.

[KAPPAtivating]

This is a sad last-ditch effort to take the spotlight of Governor Palin's lack of preparation and national experience. She has been backed into a corner and is doing her best to come out swinging (or slinging I should say) whatever anyone will listen to. So desperate and ineffective...