Laura Bush vs Teresa Heinz

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by jharb
co-sign!!!

...please she's the candidate for the first lady, NOT THE PRESIDENT, and it's a picture that caught her looking down, unless you've never been caught off guard in a picture and always look perfect in them you really can't say much.

You mean Republicans get caught in unflattering poses?

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by honeychile
For those of you who haven't had the opportunity to "know" Teresa Heinz Kerry, as the wife of your state's politician or otherwise, this picture speaks a thousand words:



And if you think that she won't look down on YOU, well, you'll learn soon enough.

Huh?

She's really saying, "this is SO not the way of the cougar."

[sugar and spice]

Barbara and Fabian




Now this thread is prettier.

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by BetaRose
So Teresa Heinz Kerry says shove it, so what. Laura Bush killed a man, which in my book is a hell of a lot worse than snarking at a reporter.

So how do you feel about Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick? Unlike Teresa and Laura who are irrelevant, Ted Kennedy is an elected official, and killed an innocent woman while he was not only of age, but an elected US Senator.

[jharb]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
You mean Republicans get caught in unflattering poses?

I could think of a few examples on this board.

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by jharb
I could think of a few examples on this board.

Stop it, y'all! There's going to be another whole thread on how mean we are and how it's okay for boys to tell girls that they're ugly but it's not okay for girls to do it.

[jharb]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
Stop it, y'all! There's going to be another whole thread on how mean we are and how it's okay for boys to tell girls that they're ugly but it's not okay for girls to do it.

have you ever seen some of the faces George W. Bush makes? I rest my case!

[Peaches-n-Cream]

I have a few thoughts. I think that some people are looking for any reason to dislike her just like they dislike Hillary Clinton. Intelligent, educated, outspoken women are considered a threat and are disliked and feared. It's a deep and visceral reaction.

Was Teresa Heinz considered cooky and irritating when she was a Republican married to Senator Heinz? Did the Republicans just consider her outspoken as the Democrats do now? I know nothing about her from that time. Did all of this animosity begin when she became Teresa Heinz-Kerry the Democrat?

I think that people also resent that she remarried. Americans like their young widows to remain tragic symbols. They don't like them remarried and happy. Many people resented when Jacqueline Kennedy married Aristotle Onassis. They felt that she was disloyal to her husband President Kennedy's memory.

[Munchkin03]

I went grocery shopping Sunday. I made sure all of the condiments, baked beans, etc. I bought were Heinz so I could make John Kerry richer. Bwa ha ha.

Everything that Peaches-and-Cream said was right on target. Did Teresa Heinz Kerry look down on everyone when she was a Republican wife? Probably not.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I have a few thoughts. I think that some people are looking for any reason to dislike her just like they dislike Hillary Clinton. Intelligent, educated, outspoken women are considered a threat and are disliked and feared. It's a deep and visceral reaction.

Was Teresa Heinz considered cooky and irritating when she was a Republican married to Senator Heinz? Did the Republicans just consider her outspoken as the Democrats do now? I know nothing about her from that time. Did all of this animosity begin when she became Teresa Heinz-Kerry the Democrat?

I think that people also resent that she remarried. Americans like their young widows to remain tragic symbols. They don't like them remarried and happy. Many people resented when Jacqueline Kennedy married Aristotle Onassis. They felt that she was disloyal to her husband President Kennedy's memory.

OK she managed to say quite a few embarassing things as a Republican as well. My favorite was the whole mess she got into with the African-American community when she said she was African American.

And people come on, The1CalledTKE repeatedly posts up pictures of Bush, even one comparing his face to a monkey. I think this was much less offensive.

And no Cream, people aren't against her because they find her smart. She makes ridiculous comments that rub people the wrong way. George Bush does it too with the stupid ass shit he says like "Do you have blacks too?"

-Rudey

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I have a few thoughts. I think that some people are looking for any reason to dislike her just like they dislike Hillary Clinton. Intelligent, educated, outspoken women are considered a threat and are disliked and feared. It's a deep and visceral reaction.

It probably is a visceral reaction, but not because "intelligent, educated, outspoken women are considered a threat and are disliked and feared." I think that people who project their anxieties onto politics, also project onto political symbols. First ladies, although irrelevant, are still political symbols. Hillary Clinton was different because she became a legitimate political target after the "buy one, get one free" comment.

[reverie]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I think that people also resent that she remarried. Americans like their young widows to remain tragic symbols. They don't like them remarried and happy. Many people resented when Jacqueline Kennedy married Aristotle Onassis. They felt that she was disloyal to her husband President Kennedy's memory.

That's a good point. People always forget that marriage vows state, "Until death do us part."

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by reverie
That's a good point. People always forget that marriage vows state, "Until death do us part."

People just get used to seeing a woman attached to a man and don't like seeing her as independent or with somebody else.

What I think is pressing here is Mrs. Cheney v. Mrs. Edwards...my money's on Elizabeth Edwards, she's a strong legal scholar.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
Did you not like her when she was married to a republican too?

No. When she was married to John Heinz, she was considered a political liability to the Republican hierarchy. My family were Democrats at the time, and they laughed themselves silly over her superior attitude & ability to ruin many of Sen. Heinz's triumphs among the people.

I haven't had the opportunity to personally talk to either Teresa Heinz Kerry or Laura Bush, but if aurora_borealis says that THK was a good speaker, I'm sure she was, just as others have said that LB is one.

And I certainly don't cotton to someone from a privileged family in Mozambique calling someone else "unamerican"!

[honeychile]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
Huh?

She's really saying, "this is SO not the way of the cougar."