Sarah Palin to resign as Alaska governor - Page 4

honeychile · #46 07-06-2009, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

well I think there was the issue with her sis in law that was being probed

Wasn't it the Baby Daddy's mother who was under investigation?

Whatever. Stranger things have happened in politics, and will happen in the future. If Tina Fey hadn't looked so much like her that people misquoted Sarah by using Tina's words, the whole tone would have been much different.

And there are already people who were interviewed for the Vanity Fair article who say they were misquoted or disregarded for not saying the PC thing. I would so love to see an agenda-free publication, if such a thing exists.

PS: If she did resign due to her kids, more power to her. Growing up in a political family is like playing hopscotch through a mine field.

Educatingblue · #47 07-06-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by minDyG

Please tell me we have another Republican sex scandal in the making.

Maybe she's having an affair with her daughter's baby daddy. (Sorry, that was in horrible taste.)

LOL...I wasn't thinking quite along those lines, but the idea of a scandal did cross my mind.

DaemonSeid · #48 07-06-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by honeychile

Wasn't it the Baby Daddy's mother who was under investigation?

Whatever. Stranger things have happened in politics, and will happen in the future. If Tina Fey hadn't looked so much like her that people misquoted Sarah by using Tina's words, the whole tone would have been much different.

And there are already people who were interviewed for the Vanity Fair article who say they were misquoted or disregarded for not saying the PC thing. I would so love to see an agenda-free publication, if such a thing exists.

PS: If she did resign due to her kids, more power to her. Growing up in a political family is like playing hopscotch through a mine field.

Well yeah that too...but that wasn't until late last year and the least of Palin's problems.

As someone said, Palin in the media does seem to be a bit...interesting?

As far as her resigning due to her kids,(if this is a reason) I seem to recall asking that question last year when we first found out about her.

Exactly how does she plan on being a government official and be a mother and grandmother at the same time especially to a special needs child?

Who was going to parent all of the kids while she was running office?

Not to say that it couldn't be done,(these questions and doubts came up during the election of course) but her quitting now if it's for this cause seems to say that she wanted her family first and all else second and may prove some of her critics right that she was indeed not ready to run for office.

IF indeed this is a reason for her resignation then it's a backtrack when she believed that she could handle even being VEEP and a parent.

Suppose she was VP now and decided to resign? How would this look?

Munchkin03 · #49 07-06-2009, 10:36 AM

According to the NYTimes, Sean Parnell is saying that Ms. Palin's resignation was related to the $500,000 in legal fees they're facing in regards to the alleged ethics violations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/us...q=palin&st=cse

I still say, "stay tuned!"

DaemonSeid · #50 07-06-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

According to the NYTimes, Sean Parnell is saying that Ms. Palin's resignation was related to the $500,000 in legal fees they're facing in regards to the alleged ethics violations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/us...q=palin&st=cse

I still say, "stay tuned!"

??? Still doesn't make any sense.

Munchkin03 · #51 07-06-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

??? Still doesn't make any sense.

Nothing these people say ever makes any sense!

Like I said, "stay tuned." I'm sure this isn't the last we hear from these people.

UGAalum94 · #52 07-06-2009, 01:21 PM

Even though not much came of the ethics investigation and there don't seem to be anymore pending, she does have the bills, but that doesn't really explain the resignation to me because with a book deal or whatever, I think she could take care of that pretty quickly.

I think that it was a mistake for her to resign if she intends to stay in politics as an elected official; it made me a whole lot less likely to vote for her. But I don't think that it means she would have resigned had she and McCain been successful. Some of the enduring negative press wouldn't be out there had they won since it's coming from McCain campaign staffers who wouldn't have as much interest in finding fault with her had they won.

I haven't worked up to reading the Vanity Fair piece yet, but it's interesting the snippets that you see in the press generally, and how much they just take the staffers' word, like the Todd Palin Alaska Party email. It's probably debatable whether the whole reason for the party's existence when T. Palin was a member was succession, but the staffer is assumed by the press at large apparently to be 100% correct in his response to her. His broader point may have been correct that it just would add fuel to the press's interest in the issue, but his rebuttal about the party itself is taken for granted as true. And I kind of wondered where he got off basically calling her a liar. How would he know why Todd cancelled his membership?

The dynamics are intended to make her look crazy, dishonest, and meddlesome, but I'm not sure that's the whole story.

Anyway, I'd actually kind of disappointed with her decision to resign in a way that surprises me, in terms of personally being kind of bummed out. I was always pretty pleased by what I knew about how she actually governed, and this decision kind of strips away why I actually found her deserving of support.

So now, unless she really does go away, we're left with the just the circus.

sdeason1 · #53 07-06-2009, 02:25 PM

she almost had the American people on a string with her run with McCain,and had a chance with john for the presidentcy. they lost, she is still taking heat from the daughter baby thing and some other problems. did she do anything wrong? we do not know as nothing has been proven. but in resigning, I think she cut all ties to the future of running again. sorry Palin, do not even try.

DaemonSeid · #54 07-06-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Even though not much came of the ethics investigation and there don't seem to be anymore pending, she does have the bills, but that doesn't really explain the resignation to me because with a book deal or whatever, I think she could take care of that pretty quickly.

I think that it was a mistake for her to resign if she intends to stay in politics as an elected official; it made me a whole lot less likely to vote for her. But I don't think that it means she would have resigned had she and McCain been successful. Some of the enduring negative press wouldn't be out there had they won since it's coming from McCain campaign staffers who wouldn't have as much interest in finding fault with her had they won.

I haven't worked up to reading the Vanity Fair piece yet, but it's interesting the snippets that you see in the press generally, and how much they just take the staffers' word, like the Todd Palin Alaska Party email. It's probably debatable whether the whole reason for the party's existence when T. Palin was a member was succession, but the staffer is assumed by the press at large apparently to be 100% correct in his response to her. His broader point may have been correct that it just would add fuel to the press's interest in the issue, but his rebuttal about the party itself is taken for granted as true. And I kind of wondered where he got off basically calling her a liar. How would he know why Todd cancelled his membership?

The dynamics are intended to make her look crazy, dishonest, and meddlesome, but I'm not sure that's the whole story.

Anyway, I'd actually kind of disappointed with her decision to resign in a way that surprises me, in terms of personally being kind of bummed out. I was always pretty pleased by what I knew about how she actually governed, and this decision kind of strips away why I actually found her deserving of support.

So now, unless she really does go away, we're left with the just the circus.

Something you and I can both agree on.

KSigkid · #55 07-06-2009, 04:28 PM

Like Munchkin and KSigRC said, I don't see her going back into politics. Leaving her term early would be difficult to explain away during a campaign for Congress or the Presidency, and it doesn't seem like she seems entirely comfortable with everything that comes with being a candidate. I think she likes just being a voice without having to worry about the other aspects of campaigning.

I have to say I'd be pretty happy if she decided not to run. I've never been a fan, and I think the party would be better off turning its attention to candidates other than Palin.

UGAalum94 · #56 07-06-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid

Like Munchkin and KSigRC said, I don't see her going back into politics. Leaving her term early would be difficult to explain away during a campaign for Congress or the Presidency, and it doesn't seem like she seems entirely comfortable with everything that comes with being a candidate. I think she likes just being a voice without having to worry about the other aspects of campaigning.

I have to say I'd be pretty happy if she decided not to run. I've never been a fan, and I think the party would be better off turning its attention to candidates other than Palin.

I wholeheartedly agree with you now. Before, I thought she had actually been an effective executive branch leader before she got the big McCain spotlight shined on her. That's pretty clearly fallen apart now. I think it was recoverable had she buckled down and stayed in office, but resigning? Nope.

And I'm not that interested in the other stuff she brings if she can't or won't actually demonstrate her competence in office, and I don't think I'm alone in the base she fired up for McCain in thinking so. Charisma without real leadership isn't worth much to me.

ETA: How is it that anyone could think that what the GOP needs are more unofficial spokes-people who alienate the center and push people left? It's one thing if you're an actual office holder who votes according to principle, but just a media figure?