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Old 09-11-2013, 06:20 PM
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Can you say WOW!

1,394 PNMs registered with Ole Miss Panhellenic through ICS.
Thanks, that's about what I expected with the announced freshman and overall enrollment increase. And of course, an excellent number!!

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Old 09-11-2013, 06:04 PM
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If all 1394 PNMs make it to pref and sign cards, then you divide 1394 by the number of sororities and that is quota.
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Old 09-11-2013, 06:15 PM
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If all 1394 PNMs make it to pref and sign cards, then you divide 1394 by the number of sororities and that is quota.
Yes, but recall that colonization considerations are being made to the RFM calculations. And recall that the not insubstantial number of grade risks are in that number too. I'm trying to get it an idea of the % of grade risks, because after that is where we can begin to say quota might look like X.
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Old 09-11-2013, 06:57 PM
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Yes, but recall that colonization considerations are being made to the RFM calculations. And recall that the not insubstantial number of grade risks are in that number too. I'm trying to get it an idea of the % of grade risks, because after that is where we can begin to say quota might look like X.
I didn't want to complicate matters, but should have said so.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:20 PM
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By the way, I really want to thank all of you who have kept GC going and relevant. I relied heavily on what I read here when both sons went through, particularly the first. I graduated from AL in a house that is also at OM, but things are so different than in my day. Your information/education/encouragement is so appreciated. My only girl is going through this year, so here I am again, round 3, relying on your advice and good common sense. Good job, and y'all can clearly see from the numbers of "reads" that you are a valuable resource!
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Old 09-12-2013, 01:09 PM
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Yes, but recall that colonization considerations are being made to the RFM calculations. And recall that the not insubstantial number of grade risks are in that number too. I'm trying to get it an idea of the % of grade risks, because after that is where we can begin to say quota might look like X.
You can fuss at me if you want, but fuss at MP too (see above). Plus, my comment was clearly hypothetical. To think that PH would bring a new colony in expressly because our system is too big, and then to also think that there is zero chance that they would make any adjustments to quota even in light of a growing PNM pool, is naïve.
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Old 09-12-2013, 01:15 PM
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You can fuss at me if you want, but fuss at MP too (see above). Plus, my comment was clearly hypothetical. To think that PH would bring a new colony in expressly because our system is too big, and then to also think that there is zero chance that they would make any adjustments to quota even in light of a growing PNM pool, is naïve.
No, you and MP are saying two different things.

Quota doesn't get lowered because of the colonization. However, under RFM, there is an assumed PNM drop-out rate that figures into the calculations. In a year that there is a colony, it's assumed that more PNM's will drop out than in a year without a colony.
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Old 09-11-2013, 06:20 PM
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Quota

WOW is right! I'm a little confused about quota - FSUZeta, are you saying that they divide the number of girls that are invited to at least one pref night party by 9 and that's quota? So theoretically, if all 1394 reached pref night there could be a quota of over 150? That would be a huge pledge class
I'm a "numbers person" so the math behind it is interesting. So 1394 less the grade risks less some # due to colonization/9 is quota? I had no idea that was what determined quota.

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Old 09-11-2013, 06:23 PM
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WOW is right! I'm a little confused about quota - FSUZeta, are you saying that they divide the number of girls that are invited to at least one pref night party by 9 and that's quota? So theoretically, if as you said all 1394 reached pref night there could be a quota of over 150? That would be a huge pledge class I'm guessing I'm off base on this and am misunderstanding. It doesn't really matter, but I'm a "number person" so the math behind it is interesting.
No you are correct. However, but PNMs will drop out of recruitment and some will be cut by all the chapters (hence why Mary Poppins wants to check the number of PNMs that are grade risks). So it is highly unlikely that quota will be 154.
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Old 09-11-2013, 06:26 PM
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Freshman class stats from Ole Miss University Communications: "[The Ole Miss (Oxford Campus)] student body includes 3,579 new freshmen. This year’s freshmen are better prepared for college coursework, with an average ACT score of 24.1, an all-time UM record, compared to an average of 23.8 last fall. Their high school GPA increased too, from 3.43 to 3.46"
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Old 09-11-2013, 06:45 PM
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For reference, here are what I believe to be the 2012 numbers:
1283 Registered
1250 Participated in 1st Round
50 Released From System
1129 Participated in Bid Matching
1123 Matched
I have no experience with colonization recruitment in the RFM era, but just for discussion, if quota were held at last year's level for the nine chartered chapters and the above ratios approximate this year's mix, then there are about 96 extra girls that will need a home.

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Old 09-11-2013, 08:49 PM
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Quota is based on the number of women signing bid cards after pref - not the number invited to pref. So all 1394 would have to make it all the way thru and all sign bid cards...and that won't happen.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:15 PM
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Last year, approximately 88% of the Registered PNMs participated in bid matching (signed an MRABA.)
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Old 09-12-2013, 12:06 AM
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And to split hairs, it's not actually the number of girls divided by the number of chapters. They start with an estimate of quota (probably A divided by B) and then they play with the numbers and see what happens if they drop or increase quota and then adding quota additions. Dropping quota can actually increase the number of girls placed if the quota additions all work correctly. But that starts to get tricky and beyond my understanding of the process. And (someone can correct me if I'm wrong), a colony doesn't affect quota except that more girls are likely to drop out of rush because they want to pursue colony membership.

But I think we can all accept that Ole Miss is probably due even more expansion!
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:29 AM
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