Sean Bell's Killers (NYC Cops) Walk - Page 3

DaemonSeid · #31 04-25-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

Before I even post I will state that ANYTHING that Rev Al gets involved with will ALWAYS be turned into a matter of RACE. Just MVHO. Based on his MO of many years.

And since I have yet any postings from today with what happened; please read some of them. As well as links off of them:
From the NY local papers:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/26/ny...26BELL.html?hp
http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynam...P&SECTION=HOME
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...itted_of_.html
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ne...,3279195.story
http://www.amny.com/news/ny-nycops0426,0,4250.story

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24305660/
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/25/...ial/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352566,00.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...edName=topNews

From the radio feeds I heard, many of the local crime beat reporters said that the "unreliable testimony of Bell's friends" (I am using a kind phase) hurt the case.

BTB, Rev Al is involved in another police shooting case in NY metro area.
An off duty local officer was shot and killed by four County Officers.
Rev Al got involved even before it was publicly announced that the victim was black. The four County Officers are mixed group.

I knew that someone on the A train was bound to pull in soon...and right on time.

Jon...go back and read some of the posts here too...

jon1856 · #32 04-25-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I knew that someone on the A train was bound to pull in soon...and right on time.

Jon...go back and read some of the posts here too...

I have, I will. You should as well

IMVHO, too many people are confusing emotional issues (which can in some ways be justified) with legal matters and issues.
A train????

DaemonSeid · #33 04-25-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

I have, I will. You should as well

IMVHO, too many people are confusing emotional issues (which can in some ways be justified) with legal matters and issues.
A train????

A Train....yes....hehe...waiting for another one to pull in....

To answer your question....with a question....why do you think this trial was done without a jury....?

nittanyalum · #34 04-25-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

A Train....yes....hehe...waiting for another one to pull in....

To answer your question....with a question....why do you think this trial was done without a jury....?

Yeah, that was referred to as a "risky" choice by the defendants at first... uh, no, they must have known a jury would be much more likely to put them in the slammer for decades while a single judge is much easier to, oh, let's just say, "convince".

jon1856 · #35 04-25-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

A Train....yes....hehe...waiting for another one to pull in....

To answer your question....with a question....why do you think this trial was done without a jury....?

Still not clear about A train comment.

I do know that answer-while I many have only stayed once or twice in a Holiday Inn Express my Dad was a litigator. He argued in front of the USSC.

However that is only one of many issues involved in this case.

jon1856 · #36 04-25-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Yeah, that was referred to as a "risky" choice by the defendants at first... uh, no, they must have known a jury would be much more likely to put them in the slammer for decades while a single judge is much easier to, oh, let's just say, "convince".

The same kind of jury known in NY for giving very high awards in Property & Casualty cases.

I would rather have the evidence and witness convince me.

DaemonSeid · #37 04-25-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

Still not clear about A train comment.

I do know that answer-while I many have only stayed once or twice in a Holiday Inn Express my Dad was a litigator. He argued in front of the USSC.

However that is only one of many issues involved in this case.

When it pulls in again.. I will make it clear for ya...hehehe!

I was asking the question in part because I think the reason why no jury was involved, (unlike the Amadu Diallo case) was because of the possibility that emotions would have ruled instead of what you had mentioned

jon1856 · #38 04-25-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

When it pulls in again.. I will make it clear for ya...hehehe!

I was asking the question in part because I think the reason why no jury was involved, (unlike the Amadu Diallo case) was because of the possibility that emotions would have ruled instead of what you had mentioned

I think we may actually be on the same page.
BTB, just which train are you waiting for?

And I thought that the Metro lines were Red, Blue, Yellow et al....

Velocity_14 · #39 04-25-2008, 02:16 PM

This has just literally made me sick to my stomach.....I'm lost for words at the present moment...

DaemonSeid · #40 04-25-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

I think we may actually be on the same page.
BTB, just which train are you waiting for?

And I thought that the Metro lines were Red, Blue, Yellow et al....

Trust me...it's the A train.

DSTCHAOS · #41 04-25-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

Before I even post I will state that ANYTHING that Rev Al gets involved with will ALWAYS be turned into a matter of RACE. Just MVHO. Based on his MO of many years.

Based on HIS MO or based on a perceived need? I'm really humored at this line of discussion.

Whether or not people like Al Sharpton doesn't change that there is a need for voices to be heard and he's one way that voices have been heard for years. Al Sharpton champions the civil rights of some underrepresented groups, PERIOD.

jon1856 · #42 04-25-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

I'm sure this will do great things for race relations in this country...

I was pleasantly surprised with Sharpton's comments.

Which comments"
These?
"The Rev. Al Sharpton accompanied Bell family members to the cemetery, and said later that they will join him on Saturday at a rally protesting the verdict. He said he had spoken to the governor and the mayor, and that he believed a federal civil rights prosecution of the officers would be appropriate.
“This verdict is one round down, but the fight is far from over,” Mr. Sharpton said.
He promised protests “to demonstrate to the federal government that New Yorkers will not take this abortion of justice lying down.”
New Yorkers or the family looking for $50 million dollars?
And this from the person who has yet to pay a dime or do any time for the part he played in the Tawana Brawley matter.

jon1856 · #43 04-25-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Based on HIS MO or based on a perceived need? I'm really humored at this line of discussion.

Whether or not people like Al Sharpton doesn't change that there is a need for voices to be heard and he's one way that voices have been heard for years. Al Sharpton champions the civil rights of some underrepresented groups, PERIOD.

Two words: Tawana Brawley.

DSTCHAOS · #44 04-25-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

too many people are confusing emotional issues (which can in some ways be justified) with legal matters and issues.

Care to explain what this means?

DSTCHAOS · #45 04-25-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

Two words: Tawana Brawley.

Is that the best you could do?

ETA: Society and victim supporters have been duped for far less (if, in fact, Brawley's claims were untrue versus unsubstantiated). Remember the cases of whites who accused black assailants of murdering their loved ones when in fact the whites were the ones who killed the loved ones--these whites knew what they were doing when they played on the image of black assailants victimizing "helpless white people."

For folks who are unfamiliar: http://www.slate.com/id/2087557