Hazing

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Again, wow.

So you taught pledges to respect the fraternity by disrespecting the fraternity yourselves? And that was a good thing?

No, I mean I wish pledging was still done above ground like it was back in the day.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

No, I mean I wish pledging was still done above ground like it was back in the day.

But you still lied to your HQ. Even "back in the day"

[PrettyBoy]

This guy did everything he could to get in. When I say everything, I mean everything. Sometimes when a potential is not accepted, but does other things to force himself in, to me is wrong and shouldn't be a member.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by amanda6035

I think i understand what BlueNYC is saying though....If you're going to snitch on someone, why would you still want to bully your way into the organization? If someone attempted to haze me, I'd snitch the crap out of them - but then I'd walk away. I wouldnt want to be in an organization that condones hazing. But from the sounds of it, this person snitched and then managed to be initiated anyway, even though nobody liked him. I would have been different if he snitched, and got respected and they still wanted him to Initiate. Of course - that's not the impression I got from the story. I got the impression that this person bullied their way into being initiated.

It's one thing to drop dime (snitch) for hazing, but to do it when you didn't even get a letter of acceptance, that's another thing and unacceptable. He's not a brother.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

It's one thing to drop dime (snitch) for hazing, but to do it when you didn't even get a letter of acceptance, that's another thing and unacceptable. He's not a brother.

That's the chapter's dumbness for pledging/hazing people prior to the vote. Selectivity apparently is a lost art. Stupid chapters allow people to bogart their way in.

Unless your organization has an administrative override (add-on) policy, the most solemn responsibility of chapters remains the selection of members. You can't have the OLD process under the NEW rules.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

That's the chapter's dumbness for pledging/hazing people prior to the vote. Selectivity apparently is a lost art. Stupid chapters allow people to bogart their way in.

Unless your organization has an administrative override (add-on) policy, the most solemn responsibility of chapters remains the selection of members. You can't have the OLD process under the NEW rules.

He was never selected.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

He was never selected.

Was he pledged, hazed, pre-pledged, or in any way contacted inappropriately prior to the vote? If you read what I said, I obviously understood that he was never selected. If he was contacted inappropriately prior to the vote, then of course he will have more footing when it comes to bogarting his was in.

Are we still referring to the dude you all didn't teach any secrets to?

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Was he pledged, hazed, pre-pledged, or in any way contacted inappropriately prior to the vote? If you read what I said, I obviously understood that he was never selected. If he was contacted inappropriately prior to the vote, then of course he will have more footing when it comes to bogarting his was in.

Are we still referring to the dude you all didn't teach any secrets to?

Same guy. I won't comment on rather he was pre-pledged, or hazed, but I will say this, he knew he didn't make the cut from the get go, but he wanted in, so he did what he had to do to attempt to get in. After everything was done and over, he had no respect from not only us, but from every glo on campus. His reason for leaving.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I won't comment on rather he was pre-pledged, or hazed

So basically he was.

I refer back to my original statement:
That's the chapter's dumbness for pledging/hazing people prior to the vote.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

So basically he was.

I refer back to my original statement:
That's the chapter's dumbness for pledging/hazing people prior to the vote.

I'll have to PM on that.

[Senusret I]

I insist that's not necessary.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I insist that's not necessary.

I know it isn't, but I already answered your question via PM.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I'm not sure how they're doing the hazing thing now. I pledged back when it was still pretty much o.k. My line did some above ground pledging.

Since you're consistently mouth almighty on here and share too much information, let's cut to the chase. Did you pledge pre-90 or post-90?

There's no such thing as "pretty much okay."

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

You got it. My chapter is a part of the "Bloody Triangle". Greeks pledge the traditional way there. I'm not sure how things are done now but back then it wasn't only hard to get picked but once you were picked, it was that much harder to make it through the pledge process. When I went to the interest meeting for the 1st time there were so many interests, that they had to use two rooms. Only 8 of us got picked to pledge, two dropped out, and 6 of us made it. 16 weeks of pledging. One guy quit 2 weeks before we were initiated into the fraternity. We started pledging on Jan 7th. and were initiated Apr 8th @ 2:26 am.

[ToastAtTemple]

After watching the evening news and listening to our White House and nom for AG tell us what is and what isn't legal when it comes to getting results, and they are saying its ok so why can't we do it????

"Mr. head of discipline committee we weren't Hazing our pledges. I swear!! We were just submitting them to sleep deprivation, and water boarding. There cant be anything wrong with that. The President says so. "

Its either really smart, or really stupid. Either way its creative.