Bid mismatch / computer error?

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by Titchou

With the new release figure method, a quota range is calculated. They can actually run the numbers using different figures for quota to find which places the maximum number of women...and that is the goal.

I think it's more of a balance between placing women and chapters making quota. Theoretically, a campus Panhellenic could place all of the women if they made quota very high, because everyone would just get their first choice. But not all chapters would make quota. If quota were very low, then all chapters could make quota, but there would be a lot of unmatched women. I think a campus Panhellenic takes both into consideration.

[skkx3]

The girl who told me I received all 10's on a scale from 0-10 was in the sorority and spoke to each member separately and they assured her that is what they ranked me. I just don't understand how I could not match up with one of the them.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by skkx3

The girl who told me I received all 10's on a scale from 0-10 was in the sorority and spoke to each member separately and they assured her that is what they ranked me. I just don't understand how I could not match up with one of the them.

How do you know? Because that's what you were told?

Yes, errors occur. I'm not saying that they don't.

But really, 99.9% of the time, the girl WAS cut and her friend in the chapter will try to save face and not hurt her feelings by saying "ohmygosh, I'm so sorry. Everybody really liked you. They ranked you all 10s, I swear!"

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by skkx3

The girl who told me I received all 10's on a scale from 0-10 was in the sorority and spoke to each member separately and they assured her that is what they ranked me. I just don't understand how I could not match up with one of the them.

I'm not going to say much about membership selection, but suffice it to say that one woman with a bad impression of you can have a much greater effect than ten who think you are great. That one woman need not be an active collegian at this particular chapter.

Other possibilities:

1) You were dropped for grades
2) You didn't have recs at a school that requires recs
3) The chapter made a mistake in preparing their invite list

Getting dropped from all chapters is rare, in most formal recruitments, if you attended all parties to which you were invited and generally had good manners, etc. However, it does happen. I would have to assume that the Greek Advisor or someone like that double-checked the invite lists before you received the phone call.

ALL THAT SAID...sometimes women fall through the cracks, and chapters may have liked you, but just had more great girls than invites to give out. If you are truly just the unlucky PNM who didn't match this time around, nothing should preclude you from giving it another shot.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I would have to assume that the Greek Advisor or someone like that double-checked the invite lists before you received the phone call.

This is the case at most schools with which I am familiar.

It's the worst thing EVER to have to tell a PNM that they have been totally released from recruitment.

Generally, people will double and TRIPLE check that PNM's name to make sure that she has no invites (because you really don't want to have to make that call.)

Ex: If Suzie Smith has no invites, her Rho Chi, the Panhellenic VP of Recruitment, and the Greek Advisor are going to check Suzie Smith's invite list and make sure.

They check for common mistakes like "Did the Rho Chi spell Suzie's name wrong when looking for her list?" or "Is there ANOTHER Suzie Smith in recruitment with no invites?"

[skkx3]

I understand what you are saying. But this girl had no reason to lie to me. So it does happen that you can be cut from all your choices? I talked to my rho gamma and she thinks it is weird and she is completely shocked that it happened to. I am not trying to sound cocky or anything but I did have great conversations with all the girls and I am just wondering if this is something I should look into to appealing?

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by skkx3

I understand what you are saying. But this girl had no reason to lie to me. So it does happen that you can be cut from all your choices? I talked to my rho gamma and she thinks it is weird and she is completely shocked that it happened to. I am not trying to sound cocky or anything but I did have great conversations with all the girls and I am just wondering if this is something I should look into to appealing?

Generally speaking, if there TRULY is a technical error with bids, chapters try to rectify it as soon as possible (e.g. if ABC knows for certain that Julie matched with them and somehow, Julie gets told that she was cut, chances are good that ABC will contact Julie ASAP and let her know of the mistake and get her bid to her.)

To my knowledge, you cannot "appeal" a lack of invites.

And yes, it does happen that women can be cut from all choices. I don't believe it's something that happens a whole lot, but it does happen.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by skkx3

Yes It is that I did not receive an invite to any of my top three choices nor my two alternates on the third day. When the second day I received all five of my choices.

Originally Posted by skkx3

The girl who told me I received all 10's on a scale from 0-10 was in the sorority and spoke to each member separately and they assured her that is what they ranked me. I just don't understand how I could not match up with one of the them.

Originally Posted by skkx3

I understand what you are saying. But this girl had no reason to lie to me. So it does happen that you can be cut from all your choices? I talked to my rho gamma and she thinks it is weird and she is completely shocked that it happened to. I am not trying to sound cocky or anything but I did have great conversations with all the girls and I am just wondering if this is something I should look into to appealing?

I know you are upset. You are asking questions that go into membership selection, and we do not discuss that here.

And we are not at your school, and we do not know every detail that might have entered into your being released from recruitment.

[Regina.George]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Generally speaking, if there TRULY is a technical error with bids, chapters try to rectify it as soon as possible (e.g. if ABC knows for certain that Julie matched with them and somehow, Julie gets told that she was cut, chances are good that ABC will contact Julie ASAP and let her know of the mistake and get her bid to her.)

To my knowledge, you cannot "appeal" a lack of invites.

And yes, it does happen that women can be cut from all choices. I don't believe it's something that happens a whole lot, but it does happen.

University of Miami is pretty competitive for a non-Southern school, isn't it? In my experience it isn't uncommon for several girls to get cross cut before preference at competitive schools.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Regina.George

University of Miami is pretty competitive for a non-Southern school, isn't it? In my experience it isn't uncommon for several girls to get cross cut before preference at competitive schools.

And by "cross cut" you mean released from recruitment, right? It has another meaning which implies a mistake was made.

To skkx3, at many schools the biggest releases are made after the second party. I'm sorry you weren't given the opportunity to join a group. I know it's tough. Take the next few days to just be good to yourself. When it's not so painful, if you want to try again, try to examine what might have gone wrong. Examine your entire resume-- are your grades good, how was your appearance, reputation, extra-curricular activities, etc. If you want, contact the Greek Life Office to see if anyone is doing COB. Sometimes great girls really do just fall through the cracks, but sometimes they just need a little more polish. Good luck.

[Regina.George]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

And by "cross cut" you mean released from recruitment, right? It has another meaning which implies a mistake was made.

To skkx3, at many schools the biggest releases are made after the second party. I'm sorry you weren't given the opportunity to join a group. I know it's tough. Take the next few days to just be good to yourself. When it's not so painful, if you want to try again, try to examine what might have gone wrong. Examine your entire resume-- are your grades good, how was your appearance, reputation, extra-curricular activities, etc. If you want, contact the Greek Life Office to see if anyone is doing COB. Sometimes great girls really do just fall through the cracks, but sometimes they just need a little more polish. Good luck.

Yes. Cross cut = not invited back to any chapters in a round; completely released from recruitment.

OP was a sophomore so that could also have something to do with it if Miami has a bias toward freshmen.

[Splash]

Originally Posted by Regina.George

University of Miami is pretty competitive for a non-Southern school, isn't it? In my experience it isn't uncommon for several girls to get cross cut before preference at competitive schools.

If you keep an open mind to EVERY chapter, it's pretty difficult to not get a bid at UM.

[DubaiSis]

I'm wondering if having 2 chapters on suspension kind of threw everyone else off. Maybe they over-invited the first 2 days because they were used to lower return rates due to competition with 2 additional chapters. When they did make their big cuts, they may have gone overboard and cut too many.

Do look into COB. If there's someone not at chapter total, you might still be able to find a way in. Good luck! I'm sorry for your unsuccessful recruitment.

[skkx3]

Thank you I am looking into informal recruitment and hopefully I will have better luck with that. One more thing, my freshman year I was at another school and I pledged a sorority then but did not go through with initiation because I found out I was transferring and wanted to rush at University of Miami. Do you think that could have hurt me while rushing?

[TriDeltaSallie]

Originally Posted by skkx3

Thank you I am looking into informal recruitment and hopefully I will have better luck with that. One more thing, my freshman year I was at another school and I pledged a sorority then but did not go through with initiation because I found out I was transferring and wanted to rush at University of Miami. Do you think that could have hurt me while rushing?

Did you leave on very good terms at that other school? The sorority world is very small and anything negative about the way you resigned or left could have made its way to your new school.

And you don't have to answer this, but do you have a sterling reputation on campus? I have no idea how membership selection works in all the groups, but multiple sisters who rank you 10 might not outweigh other information if it comes to light. I'm NOT saying this is the case for you and that's why I said you don't have to answer this. But lots of other women read these threads over the years and it may be the case with them.

That said, I hope something works out for you!