A GC Hypothetical

[mu_agd]

Originally posted by decadence
hey, there's a thread that's all clueless quotes too. omg, we must be out to get you!
Like 0MG that's sick!! I have to post about you now with links to this thread and I'm gonna save the evidence too so I can tell everyone you're a stalker! I'm not g0nna tell u h0w I save it thouGh cuz if you know my methods you'll be 1 step ahead.

go ahead. have a blast.

[sugar and spice]

Seriously, pip, I don't think anybody is going to back you up here. I think it's clear to anybody with more than two brain cells that they're the same person, and I would put money on the fact that mullet won't post here ever again but that within a month IHE will have a new personality on the board (or maybe we'll get another round of the oh-so-awesome "It wasn't me, it was my roommate!" story). I'm not sure why you're wasting your time defending this woman -- like I told you on LJ, you know about 1/100th of the story and to keep going off like you do makes you look really stupid to anybody who knows all of it. Some people I care about have been put through hell because of this girl, and continue to be put through hell because of her, and I would rather waste my energy on making sure they're okay than on trying to get you to change your mind.




And just to be b*tchy:

"I SO need lessons from you on how to be cool. Tell me the part about Kenny G again?"

[decadence]

Who said my mind was made up I just can't believe you brought Alicia into this!!

If you could read you'd know my mind hadn't been made up because I hadn't seen evidence. Neither had you really; but sentience was never in your arsenal.

[mu_agd]

Originally posted by decadence
Who said my mind was made up I just can't believe you brought Alicia into this!!

dude, you're the one that brought Clueless and Alicia Sliverstone into this by commenting on H's signature that has been there for the past few months in every damn post she makes.

also, there is evidence. maybe we just don't feel like sharing it with the likes of you. we found stuff that clearly points to the fact that it is the same person. so if you really want to know, use your google skills and you can probably figure some stuff out too.

and don't forget everyone, board is life.

[decadence]

yours maybe

[James]

There is a certain cruel Greekchat irony to this story.

Aren't you girls in that loose group of friends that researched/stalked and "outed" Iowa last time? And I imagine drove her off the board?

And now you are telling us that she immediately came back and over time managed to become accepted by, and friends with, the very girls that were invovled in getting rid of her?

That she was actually considered part of the H & A and pals?

And that she may even have created a live journal based on the persona of the person who was the most militant in destroying her on Greek Chat last year?

And now you girls feel betrayed at this cruel deception?

But aren't you loosely the same group that has had members make up fake user names on GC to ridicule and be mean to other GC'ers?

And didn't some member of this same group of pals create a fake livejournal account to ridicule and mock Honeychile?

And isn't there a whole thread dedicated to how casually mean these people are?

I have no idea why the average GC'er is supposed to view mullet as being so much worse in her effect on the boards than the very group of people condemning her.

It seems more like a form of poetic justice.

We are all sitting here and wondering at her pathrology in doing this, but honestly:

How she must have laughed and laughed about this. To have become the confidante of the same people that most went after her in the past.

ITs almost like a movie.

Oh, and for the record, if she isn't an AXID, that kind of sucks, but unless there was exchange of Ritual information, it really doesn't have any serious consequences.

[HotDamnImAPhiMu]

Originally posted by James
Oh, and for the record, if she isn't an AXID, that kind of sucks, but unless there was exchange of Ritual information, it really doesn't have any serious consequences.

Gah. Which I would imagine (hope!) there wasn't. I've been on GC for a couple years and have YET to discuss ritual information on it!

I'd hope for a disussion of AXD's ritual information to go on, an AXD would have to be satisfied off board that Mullet was a sister. Besides... what could anyone possibly want to discuss ONLINE about their ritual?!

Oy vey.

[sugar and spice]

James, I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post because I think it's friggin' ridiculous, and as I've pointed out, the vast majority of stuff that the "H&A" is accused of has never and will never apply to me.

But I just want to point out that the people who have been most affected by Iowa's bullshit have IN NO WAY DESERVED IT and have NEVER been involved in any of the stuff you mentioned in your post. To even insinuate that they deserved any of it honestly makes me sick to my stomach. You have no clue how much she has affected some people on this board -- no friggin' clue. And yes, that is maybe somewhat their fault -- who can you really trust on the internet, after all? But the fact that she would abuse these people's trust TWICE honestly just makes me ill.

mullet was never really a part of the core H&A -- to be honest, she was the only "member" that I never really talked to; most of us didn't talk to her much off GC -- so I'm not too upset by this . . . I liked her persona, she didn't do anything to hurt me, so mullet/IHE's effect on the board, as you said, to me was pretty nonexistent. It's her effect OFF the board (stalking, etc.) that worries me, and that's why I think this was posted on GC -- this girl is not just your average run-of-the-mill troll. It's quite clear to all of those who have interacted with her that she has mental problems.

Would you have reacted differently if it had been somebody other than the H&A that had "outed" this girl? To be completely honest with you, we anticipated that and contemplated passing the info off to somebody else not associated with us just so we would be taken more seriously, but ultimately figured that was unnecessary as people would just be concerned enough about the news that they wouldn't be swayed by its source. Apparently you managed to prove us wrong and that is an issue . . .

And James still wonders why I'm always hostile.

[WhiteDaisy128]

[mu_agd]

Originally posted by WhiteDaisy128

bwahahahahaha. omg. bwahahahaha.

[swissmiss04]

White Daisy, I luv you.

This whole think is fecking ghey.

[AXJules]

Originally posted by James
There is a certain cruel Greekchat irony to this story.

Aren't you girls in that loose group of friends that researched/stalked and "outed" Iowa last time? And I imagine drove her off the board?

Yep. Thats me. Except no one stalked her.. she was involved in several friendships/relationships offline, someone contacted her old chapter to get an updated phone number, and BAM we find out she's not real.

And now you are telling us that she immediately came back and over time managed to become accepted by, and friends with, the very girls that were invovled in getting rid of her?

That she was actually considered part of the H & A and pals?

And that she may even have created a live journal based on the persona of the person who was the most militant in destroying her on Greek Chat last year?

Yep.
That's me everybody. I outed her. BECAUSE I HATE LIARS. Destroying her? I'm sorry...she was a MOD who lied about her name, affiliation, activities, and traded DZ ritual secrets. Everything about her was entirely fake, and you feel she had a right to be IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION here? You're right, James, I was way out of line.

But aren't you loosely the same group that has had members make up fake user names on GC to ridicule and be mean to other GC'ers?

And didn't some member of this same group of pals create a fake livejournal account to ridicule and mock Honeychile?

And isn't there a whole thread dedicated to how casually mean these people are?

FORGET EVERYONE ELSE. This is about me and her. That being said...um, no. I know NOTHING about fake lj's/account names, was never part of that. I've never even spoken to Honeychile. I have said several times to you, James, if I'm this mean, predatory bitch you make me out to me, than link it. Prove it. Back yourself up. I have done NOTHING to anyone to warrant this.

I have no idea why the average GC'er is supposed to view mullet as being so much worse in her effect on the boards than the very group of people condemning her.

It seems more like a form of poetic justice.

If you've made it this far through the thread and still don't get it, I pity you. Poetic justice??? God you're sick.

And finally, for those of you who don't have an LJ, I realize my initial post was a lil jumpy and unclear. So I posted this over there too: realize my inital post was not clear enough, and that is because, as Heather said, this is not just a GC thing anymore and since it has filtered into real life, obviously I can't disclose a lot of information. That being said, I'm the one who outed Lisa the first time, and I was right. I never make blanket statements or accusations like this...the only one I've made dealt with her.

It wasn't just a picture she took...and that picture is not mine, it is one i found on Google. She took a post I wrote and passed it off as her own. Do I really care that it looks like she wrote it? No, except I know who I'm dealing with and its an indication of other things going on. Mullets IM is on this journal...so is her same birthdate. The pics in this journal are the same ones IHE circulated among some of the boys and myself 2 years ago. And the post is stolen from my journal...even without all the other shit, connect the dots.

I agree with you that people jump to conclusions sometimes. Given what I've said above, I would hope you and others would take my statements seriously.

I am also realizing today that she and I had an interaction IRL that is only becoming clear now. We may not all get along all the time, but I would HATE to see this happen to you. We live in nearby suburbs. Try to understand.

James you and I DEFINITELY never get along, but your flippant, You-deserve-it-jules- attitude makes me ill. I'd never wish your safety in danger- I guess that's where you and I differ. But hey...laugh it up. You're right. It's hysterical.

[BobbyTheDon]

Omega,

please make a montage of this soap opera...and make me the pimp of all the girls

thank you

[James]

Well thats a good question and deserves a serious answer.

The short version is that the entire matter is unimportant to the boards.

If XYZcutie had "outed" mullet I would probably have just asked for the thread to be deleted and a caution sent to her about bringing up non-GC stuff or posting people's personal data on the net.

Or censored creating a situation where mullet is being smeared for no discenerable reason. ITs a character attack that mullet couldn't fight against even if it wasn't true. How can you prove a negative?

I could smear any of the people on GC just by making sinister comments.

I would think that action needed to be taken if Mullet were a problem poster on GC, was personally attacking people, or was posting personal data on GC.

Or even as a stretch, if Mullet were harrassing GC'ers off the site but because of GC. And maybe this is more like this? But I would have wanted to handle most of that stuff privately because that is he said she said.

In the end, the situation as presented really doesn't effect the boards, and much like sexual relationships between GC'ers its not something that needs to aired.

Also, I find it distasteful when people smear others on here because of personal likes and dislikes.

Harem Stuff.

It seems that you, Sugar and Spice periodically come out as the voice of reason for the H & A, and of course yourself.

And honestly, I am having a hard time remembering when you have been specifically guilty of much that is attributed to the H & A.

However, you have chosen to belong to and help build a clique that is generally considered to be the mean girls of GC.

So when I see a post like this, and its not a seemingly important issue to the boards, it just seems par for the course.

And H & A members have done some reall odd stuff. The Honeychile fake live journal account.

Also didn't you guys post Rudey's pics as well as his personal information online? I seem to recall that from a while ago.

Wouldn't those people feel harrassed? O threatened?

I can guarentee you that more people have quit GC because of the antics of the H & A than the possible deceptions of Mullet.

In Greek Chat Board terms, having the H & A give dire warnings about Mullet, when most of her "deceptions" have nothing to do with Greek Chat, is a little like pedophiles telling us that someone that has tried anal sex is a real deviant.

Oh, I am just making an extreme comparison. I don't think that any of the H & A and pals like little children sexually.


Where the harem comes in

Originally posted by sugar and spice


Would you have reacted differently if it had been somebody other than the H&A that had "outed" this girl? To be completely honest with you, we anticipated that and contemplated passing the info off to somebody else not associated with us just so we would be taken more seriously, but ultimately figured that was unnecessary as people would just be concerned enough about the news that they wouldn't be swayed by its source. Apparently you managed to prove us wrong and that is an issue . . .