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[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by focus
Thats great, but you don't have to be on the defensive. I don't know every greek person in the world and I am sure there are a lot that are living for Christ. And if you are one of them then I encourage you to continue to be a great example to others. I was just merely trying to tell the thread why those who have already decided not to join for Christian reasons chose not to join.

But one thing I do have a question about. How is that you can say that "orgs don't make its members the members make its org," when in the state I live in, its an unwritten requirment to "be made" in order to get acceptance among the members of those greek organizations? And if you are not "made" (which I have witnessed on a few occasions) you get out-casted by other greek orgs and even members of your own group.

Its just a question, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

If people have opposing views on something, then yes we're going to be on different sides defending what we believe, correct? That's the only way I'm getting defensive on this, any other definition of the word is incorrect in this sense.

I didn't say that you knew every member of a GLO in the world, but you talked as though a college aged Christian who is able to refrain from attending 'wild parties' while being active in a fraternity or sorority is like a Unicorn, some kind of mythological creature. And I wanted to tell you that they do exist and they are happy with the decisions they have made.

And when I said an organization doesn't make a person, the person makes the organization I meant that gaining membership is not your one-way ticket to an identity. If you are joining for status and to feel like you are somebody than maybe you need to re-evaluate things. You have to be strong within yourself so that you may present the best you to the organization in which you want to be a member. If you know who you are and what you stand for before becoming a member, you are better able to serve others and uphold the goals of that organization. Your Financial Card is NOT your Identification Card.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by PerfectVerse06
you talked as though a college aged Christian who is able to refrain from attending 'wild parties' while being active in fraternity or sorority is like a Unicorn, some kind of mythological creature.

Hey, I think this is going in my signature....I like this quote!

[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Hey, I think this is going in my signature....I like this quote!

YAAAAAAY!!! You like me....you really like me!







But I forgot to put the word 'a' before 'fraternity', so you might want to change it in your siggy LOL!

[teena]

PV06, I want a new siggy too.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by PerfectVerse06



But I forgot to put the word 'a' before 'fraternity', so you might want to change it in your siggy LOL!

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Will do. I copied directly..but since I have permission from the author to make changes...

[focus]

Originally posted by PerfectVerse06


I didn't say that you knew every member of a GLO in the world, but you talked as though a college aged Christian who is able to refrain from attending 'wild parties' while being active in a fraternity or sorority is like a Unicorn, some kind of mythological creature. And I wanted to tell you that they do exist and they are happy with the decisions they have made.

If you are joining for status and to feel like you are somebody than maybe you need to re-evaluate things. You have to be strong within yourself so that you may present the best you to the organization in which you want to be a member.

I am sorry if I came off as if there being greek and living Christ-like is unheard of. All I can tell you is from what I have observed. I was positive before that they do exist, I just had never met a person in college who has.

It's great that you have a great head on your shoulder and you can make a wise decision about why you should join an org. but most of the women I know (and I stress I), on the collegiate level, don't go about decision making that way.

But Im getting off track. I only want to present the view of Christ-like people who chose not to join greek orgs. I can't speak for everyone else.

[f8nacn]

Originally posted by focus
I have yet to find a greek person (on the collegiate level, I don't really come in contact with those other than college), that has been able to live a holy life because of the desire to fit in and be accepted by their brothers/sisters. But it is possible, someone just has to be strong enough to do it, and be an example for other possibly greek Christ-like people to follow.

Not to be demeaning or anything but it seems that you live in a very small world...

[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by teena
PV06, I want a new siggy too.

Hmmmm....I'll have to come up with some words of wisdom that have been passed down to me over the years or something. I'll run a few by you LOL!

originally posted by focus
I am sorry if I came off as if there being greek and living Christ-like is unheard of. All I can tell you is from what I have observed. I was positive before that they do exist, I just had never met a person in college who has.

It's great that you have a great head on your shoulder and you can make a wise decision about why you should join an org. but most of the women I know (and I stress I), on the collegiate level, don't go about decision making that way.

But Im getting off track. I only want to present the view of Christ-like people who chose not to join greek orgs. I can't speak for everyone else.

No need to apologize! This is the way people are SUPPOSED to dialogue!

It's cool that we both can see each other's points, and respectfully co-exist on GC.



It's just as hard for ANY college student, regardless of Greek affiliation or lack thereof, whose a Christian to remain steadfast in his or her faith with all the temptation and peer pressure that's out there. And this is the time that a Christian should focus on establishing an even closer relationship with God, and praying for the strength to avoid giving into those negative things.

If one's relationship with God is strong enough, one can become a member of a GLO and the 'wild parties' (which are only a small piece of the Greek experience) won't affect them.

[focus]

Originally posted by f8nacn
Not to be demeaning or anything but it seems that you live in a very small world...

If you call division one small, maybe so. But as Homecoming Queen and Student Body President, I guess I can say that I know a great deal of people. But you weren't being demeaning, that could very well be the case.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by f8nacn
Not to be demeaning or anything but it seems that you live in a very small world...

It's a small world after all, It's a small world after all, It's a small world after all, It's a small, small world.

Sorry, Flashback to EuroDisney2001.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by focus
If you call division one small, maybe so. But as Homecoming Queen and Student Body President, I guess I can say that I know a great deal of people. But you weren't being demeaning, that could very well be the case.

If one wants to join a fraternity/sorority because of a status symbol, it becomes an issue of pride. The Bible repeatedly encourages humility both in life and in the choice of one's companions (Romans 12:16; 1 Peter 5:5-7), even as Christ lived. The Bible mentions pride as a MAJOR sin and as something God hates (Proverbs 6:16-19; 8:13; 11:2; 16:18; Daniel 4:37; 1 Peter 5:5; 1 John 2:15-17).

So, what made you run for Homecoming Queen if not pride?

[btb87]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
It's a small world after all, It's a small world after all, It's a small world after all, It's a small, small world.

Doggone it, now I'm gonna be hearing that for the rest of the day.

[focus]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
So, what made you run for Homecoming Queen if not pride?

I didn't run for Homecomign Queen. At my school you can't run for it. Its done on merit, academic, etc and is set up more like a Leadership Court then a Homecoming one to reward campus leaders. But no, Im not perfect if thats what you are trying to imply, no one is, and I can probabley list out all of my flaws. But thats besides that point. I don't want to make it in to a personal thing. Just intellectual people presenting intellectual ideas.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by focus
I didn't run for Homecomign Queen. At my school you can't run for it. Its done on merit, academic, etc and is set up more like a Leadership Court then a Homecoming one to reward campus leaders. But no, Im not perfect if thats what you are trying to imply, no one is, and I can probabley list out all of my flaws. But thats besides that point. I don't want to make it in to a personal thing. Just intellectual people presenting intellectual ideas.

I'm not implying anything. The mere fact that you mentioned that you held positions at all shows pride, a big sin according to you. That's all I'm saying. And you're right, none of us are perfect.

[focus]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
I'm not implying anything. The mere fact that you mentioned that you held positions at all shows pride, a big sin according to you. That's all I'm saying.

Currection: its a big sin according to the bible, not me, and what you are quoting comes from another source that I copied the link to. But in response to that, I did not mention it to brag about what I have done if thats what you mean, it was to show that my view of people in the world may be a bit bigger than one may think. But again, its not about me, or my flaws, its about the issue of why some Christ-like people feel like that can't join certain greek orgs. And it has nothing to do with being a perfect person or not, so I hope you don't think I am saying that being in a greek org means your not perfect or capable of trying to live a "perfect life" because thats not what I tried to imply.