Assistant attorney general blogs against gay student body president

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I can't wait to escape this state.

You could always move to Illinois, they have no issues with their government officials.

Lurves to agzg and IrishLake.

We have scandals too, every state does. Well okay, Wyoming, other than Dick Cheney it seems pretty benign. Vermont? They seem pretty stable and there's all that maple syrup and Ben & Jerry's, and you can marry a guy who writes do-it-yourself books and is a local tv host.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

You could always move to Illinois, they have no issues with their government officials.

Lurves to agzg and IrishLake.

We have scandals too, every state does. Well okay, Wyoming, other than Dick Cheney it seems pretty benign. Vermont? They seem pretty stable and there's all that maple syrup and Ben & Jerry's, and you can marry a guy who writes do-it-yourself books and is a local tv host.

This is just the government I inherited whenever I moved here. You can bet we'll be voting differently this time.

And really, I really really really don't want Rahm Emmanuel to be the mayor. That sounds incredibly disasterous to me.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by agzg

This is just the government I inherited whenever I moved here. You can bet we'll be voting differently this time.

And really, I really really really don't want Rahm Emmanuel to be the mayor. That sounds incredibly disasterous to me.

But really fucking entertaining

[Drolefille]

Hey, we just reserve our officials a prison cell upon election.

I swear I think I'm voting Green Party again this year just to flip the other guys the bird.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Hey, we just reserve our officials a prison cell upon election.

I swear I think I'm voting Green Party again this year just to flip the other guys the bird.

So I ended up looking at the actual blog, and it is full of crazy, but this quote is made me lose it.

"It was like being at a klan rally except the klansmen were wearing Abercrombie polos and Birkenstocks."

All of the photos posted on the website and the video, if they were taken by Andrew Shirvell are really close up and I wonder if he was trespassing to film the kids and do a photo shoot when the police were there. I'm sure the state bar is not too thrilled either.

[VandalSquirrel]

Looks like someone has been suspended from their job in light of a protective order issued. They have also been trespassed from campus.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20101...y-bashing-blog

ETA: There's a new Anderson Cooper interview with the AG of Michigan, Mike Cox. I laugh like a little kid when anyone on the show says his name.

[elusive47]

sexually seducing and influencing a previously conservative [male] student

Methinks the closet case was dating the "previously conservative male student", the ex-conservative student left him for the student body president, and now closet case has lost his damn mind.

[agzg]

Well, I think part of it comes from the fact that many people don't see (straight) men and women as being able to have completely platonic relationships. If they don't think straight people can do it, why would they think gay people would be any different? It's just that they're more willing to risk a non-platonic friendship with a member of the opposite sex than they are with the same sex.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by agzg

Well, I think part of it comes from the fact that many people don't see (straight) men and women as being able to have completely platonic relationships. If they don't think straight people can do it, why would they think gay people would be any different? It's just that they're more willing to risk a non-platonic friendship with a member of the opposite sex than they are with the same sex.

This doesn't make sense to me. I have many male friends that have never hit on me, never made a move, etc. I've never done that, either.

Not to mention, that's no reason to be scared of gays and lesbians. If one friend becomes attracted to the other and it isn't reciprocated, you do what you do if the friends are male/female.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

This doesn't make sense to me. I have many male friends that have never hit on me, never made a move, etc. I've never done that, either.

Not to mention, that's no reason to be scared of gays and lesbians. If one friend becomes attracted to the other and it isn't reciprocated, you do what you do if the friends are male/female.

There are lots of instances of cultures/religions/groups who did or still do believe that men and women are to be separate because they are incapable of forming relationships that are not sexual.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by agzg

There are lots of instances of cultures/religions/groups who did or still do believe that men and women are to be separate because they are incapable of forming relationships that are not sexual.

However for the purposes of this thread, that is not the norm. The norm for most of us here is to have interactions with people of both sexes.

[christiangirl]

One question: What exactly is a "radical homosexual agenda?"

Srsyly?

[agzg]

So it's not valid to bring up the fact that just because our (liberal) conventional wisdom is that gay people will not hit on every person of the same sex because straight people don't hit on every person of the opposite sex, other "conventional wisdoms" exist and have existed that men and women indeed can not be trusted to foster completely platonic relationships with one another?

It's not necessarily my view, but I can see where people may draw the conclusion, especially if they believe men and women cannot have platonic frienships. Whether they prescribe to a culture/society/or religion that tells them to remain separate doesn't really matter at that point.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by agzg

So it's not valid to bring up the fact that just because our (liberal) conventional wisdom is that gay people will not hit on every person of the same sex because straight people don't hit on every person of the opposite sex, other "conventional wisdoms" exist and have existed that men and women indeed can not be trusted to foster completely platonic relationships with one another.

Sure, bring it up...it just doesn't really apply to what was being discussed, that's all. Besides, I don't buy that there is a spot in the world where all men will hit on every woman they interact with and vice versa if kept completely seperate. I believe it has more to do with not letting them be alone with one another/in situations which could foster sexual interactions which doesn't even need to apply to relationships...just hormones.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Sure, bring it up...it just doesn't really apply to what was being discussed, that's all. Besides, I don't buy that there is a spot in the world where all men will hit on every woman they interact with and vice versa if kept completely seperate. I believe it has more to do with not letting them be alone with one another/in situations which could foster sexual interactions which doesn't even need to apply to relationships...just hormones.

woosh

This is what YOU believe. Which is fine. I believe it, too.

That being said, I can understand where people may (or may not) be coming from when they think that gay people are constantly hitting on everyone in their same sex because they like to have sex with people of their same sex.

It's very similar to the thought that men and women cannot have a truly platonic friendship.

People that prescribe to the When Harry Met Sally view of relationships.

I fail to see how that's not relevant to the conversation, and how the conventional wisdom in the United States even was once that men and women could not have platonic relationships (and for a long time were kept separate by society because of it).

I mean, sure, I mentioned other cultures/religions, but I also don't think that the culture/society of the US during the victorian period is the same as the culture/society of the US now.