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ReachTheLimit · #**421** 10-11-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

You're not in a sorority so you're having a hard time comprehending this. From what I understand, the AI decision is up to the local AA, the HQ, and maybe even some other people. If you met a girl at a bar who was dancing on top of the bar and stripping and the next night you saw her at rush, wouldn't you be cautious? That's the same thing for many of the women on GC. They are loyal and devoted members of their sororities and want to protect their integrity, reputation, and good names. If they see a PNAM on GC revealing their true colors on GC and acting in not so positive way, why shouldn't they try to influence HQ's decision when it comes to that person's AI?

KLP, when one starts with the "you are not in a sorority so you are not comprehending this" that is about as weak as "you don't have kids so you don't know anything about raising them" or "you are not married so you don't understand".

I don't understand why everything regarding AI has to be such an argument.

greekalum · #**422** 10-11-2006, 04:45 PM

No, guys, look at how we are attacking her for saying the decision is up to the local AA. Her being misinformed is her business and we are bullying her by correcting her.

ReachTheLimit · #**423** 10-11-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Other threads have been deleted or edited. There are some PNAIs who got caught up in this fight, but usually the attack isn't so much at them as around them.

I won't disagree with you there, that is probably true.

tunatartare · #**424** 10-11-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

KLP, when one starts with the "you are not in a sorority so you are not comprehending this" that is about as weak as "you don't have kids so you don't know anything about raising them" or "you are not married so you don't understand".

I don't understand why everything regarding AI has to be such an argument.

Why is that a weak argument? I don't have kids. So now, I truly don't 100% understand the responsibility or the role of being a parent. I can't and I won't unless I ever become a parent.

valkyrie · #**425** 10-11-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

I think potential AI members are tired of getting attacked for their interests and getting grilled by other GC members, who may NOT EVEN be a member of the sorority they are looking at, about why they want to join, etc. That isn't anyone's business, it's between the PNAI and the AA, and no PNAI should have to justify it to anyone on GC.

It seems like you're trying to have it both ways -- you're saying that why a woman wants to join a sorority isn't anyone's business and is between her and the organization. That's fine and I agree. The thing is, after she posts about it on the internet, she's making it everyone else's business. She could keep it between herself and the organization by not posting about it on the internet.

OtterXO · #**426** 10-11-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

It seems like you're trying to have it both ways -- you're saying that why a woman wants to join a sorority isn't anyone's business and is between her and the organization. That's fine and I agree. The thing is, after she posts about it on the internet, she's making it everyone else's business. She could keep it between herself and the organization by not posting about it on the internet.

SO true.

33girl · #**427** 10-11-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by greekalum

No, guys, look at how we are attacking her for saying the decision is up to the local AA. Her being misinformed is her business and we are bullying her by correcting her.

You mean the burden of proof is on us?

greekalum · #**428** 10-11-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

Why is that a weak argument? I don't have kids. So now, I truly don't 100% understand the responsibility or the role of being a parent. I can't and I won't unless I ever become a parent.

It's not even that analagous. There are not policies about child-rearing that only parents have access to. There ARE policies about things like AI that only an organization's members have access to.

_Lisa_ · #**429** 10-11-2006, 04:50 PM

Its such a BURDEN to not be able to understand everything sometimes.

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

Why is that a weak argument?

Its weak because its the truth. No one likes to hear the truth! Especially around here...

ReachTheLimit · #**430** 10-11-2006, 04:52 PM

Well, I'll give you that, I probably didn't word that correctly.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is when someone is generally posting, looking for general information, and just want to post regarding her successes and lows regarding AI, why should she have to worry about being grilled regarding her quest on the GC AI Forum and that people that don't particularly like the AI process being discussed lead the way? It just seems cruel and unnecessary.

tunatartare · #**431** 10-11-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

It just seems cruel and unnecessary.

It's a cruel, cruel world.

There's a simple solution. If you think it's cruel- don't post. It's not rocket science. Really. (But of course I wouldn't get that, because I'm not a rocket scientist.)

Drolefille · #**432** 10-11-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by greekalum

It's not even that analagous. There are not policies about child-rearing that only parents have access to. There ARE policies about things like AI that only an organization's members have access to.

My mom always told me there was a secret book that mom's get... are you saying that's a lie?

Drolefille · #**433** 10-11-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by greekalum

Depending on the organization it may or may not be up to the local AA.

Which is, again, a problem with these blind postings. What is the point of these "pursuit" threads? Encouragement? What if the organization the woman is pursuing does not do AI or the woman doesn't meet their criteria- does she really need pages of un-related women posting, "Oh, I hope (Code Name) calls you back"? What purpose does it serve?

I think that the problem is in looking for a "point" Sometimes the only point is encouragement.

greekalum · #**434** 10-11-2006, 04:55 PM

AI is an honor. It is not something like running a marathon that one sets a goal to do and then trains for, prepares, and does. Positioning it as something one has successes and lows with seeking misrepresents what it actually is.

General information is not available because there is no general NPC policy. The only relevant information is available from that organization only.

greekalum · #**435** 10-11-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

My mom always told me there was a secret book that mom's get... are you saying that's a lie?

I don't know- I'm not a mom yet. Perhaps there IS.