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Old 12-15-2014, 11:23 AM
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I recommend anyone who engages in these discussions inform themselves of what is being done at the local, state, national, and international levels BEFORE claiming nothing is being done.
On the issue of campus sexual assault, there is a lot being done.

The concept/meaning/definition of rape (compared to the legal/judicial one historically used) is being altered, the burden of proof is being shifted to the accused (unprecedented) while at the same time the standard of proof has been significantly lowered (from the highest standard, to the lowest) while also obliterating technical due process protections for the accused (in some campus proceedings, the accused isnt even told what the charges are). As a means of getting more men found guilty of rape, these are very effective tools. As a means to punish rapists and prevent more rapes, it's of dubious value.

Hence, the accusers and now the accused are suing colleges and the federal government under Title IX in record numbers.

At least the trial lawyers are happy.
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Old 12-15-2014, 03:00 PM
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Getting completely out of the business...

Eventually, private schools (like for example Yale), at least will start evaluating what it will take for them to get *completely* out of the business of on campus discipline. Have a rape charge? Go to the New Haven Police. Don't want the person attending classes with you, get a distance based restraining order from a Judge.
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Old 12-15-2014, 03:49 PM
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Eventually, private schools (like for example Yale), at least will start evaluating what it will take for them to get *completely* out of the business of on campus discipline. Have a rape charge? Go to the New Haven Police. Don't want the person attending classes with you, get a distance based restraining order from a Judge.
But even that doesn't take the university out of it. How does the university decide whose class schedule changes? Or who has to move dorms? Etc.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:45 PM
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According to this AP story, Rolling Stone didn't interview Jackie's friends who were with her that night. They are saying there's even more mis-information.
http://news.yahoo.com/friends-pushed...230527979.html
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:18 PM
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According to this AP story, Rolling Stone didn't interview Jackie's friends who were with her that night. They are saying there's even more mis-information.
http://news.yahoo.com/friends-pushed...230527979.html
What is not clear is the extent to which the author embellished what she was told or even if this was a composite of many different stories she heard. In one article or another Jackie asked to be able to vet the story before publication. This request was denied by Rolling Stone.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:47 PM
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Report: UVA officials knew of rape report before Rolling Stone-

Much of the scrutiny on the Rolling Stone story about the University of Virginia has focused on the account of a young woman known as “Jackie,” what she told whom when about an alleged gang rape, and how the magazine did or didn’t verify the facts around it. But the apparent institutional indifference to following up on such an allegation, a core part of the same article, has not been disputed, and has now been corroborated by an account in a local newspaper.
The Daily Progress in Charlottesville reports, citing an unnamed “participant” in the meetings in question, that “University of Virginia officials knew in mid-September about allegations of a sexual attack at a school fraternity yet by their own account did not request a police investigation until after a Rolling Stone story launched a firestorm more than two months later.” http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/report-uv...tone?CID=sm_FB




UVa officials were aware of sexual assault allegations two months before Rolling Stone controversy http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/lo...f18fad49b.html
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:51 PM
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I Was Gang Raped at a U-VA Frat 30 Years Ago, and No One Did Anything

In the same house where Rolling Stone's Jackie says she was. No one did anything about it until one of my rapists contacted me to apologize http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...DB&via=FB_Page
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Old 12-17-2014, 07:14 PM
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RE: UVA
A writer has snarky fun with a recent NPC pronouncement:

http://jezebel.com/very-brave-sorori...eir-1672204114


The actual NPC statement is included in

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...e6c_story.html
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Old 12-19-2014, 10:55 PM
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Rolling Stone Fact-Checker Didn't Ask About Alleged Rape Victim In Emails With UVA Officials http://huff.to/1ACMtz0 via @HuffPostMedia

NEW YORK –- A Rolling Stone fact-checker didn't ask University of Virginia officials via email about an alleged 2012 gang rape described in an explosive and now unraveling article published last month.
Under a Freedom of Information Act request, The Huffington Post obtained 104 pages of email correspondence between UVA officials and Rolling Stone contributing editor Sabrina Rubin Erdely, who wrote the story, and assistant editor Elisabeth Garber-Paul, who fact-checked it.
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Old 12-23-2014, 11:36 AM
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Rolling Stone requests independent review of its University of Virginia rape story

The Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism will conduct a review into the magazine's editorial process http://www.salon.com/2014/12/22/roll...rce=newsletter
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Old 01-08-2015, 12:38 PM
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Spring Rush at the University of Virginia-Before it was discredited, a coed’s sensational story alleging gang rape at the University of Virginia prompted the university’s president, Teresa Sullivan, to suspend fraternity and sorority activities on campus so that underlying problems of frat-house excesses could be addressed. The result, announced Tuesday, is an encouraging and realistic agreement by student and university leaders to crack down on the sort of binge drinking and partying abuses that have given frat-house behavior a notorious reputation on campuses across the nation. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/08/op...on&nlid=976554

UVA Reveals Strict New Rules On Fraternity Parties
The University of Virginia unveiled strict new rules for fraternity parties Tuesday as it lifted the suspension on Greek social life imposed after a controversial Rolling Stone article in November.
The new rules, including a requirement that a sober fraternity member monitor bedrooms during parties, attempt to reform social life at the Charlottesville campus following a Rolling Stone article that described an alleged gang rape in a bedroom at Phi Kappa Psi. The article has since come under fire for inconsistencies.
The new party policy is outlined in an addendum to the university's Fraternal Organization Agreement, which must be signed annually by each Greek life organization. The agreement spells out rules all 61 fraternities and sororities must obey in order to remain officially recognized by UVA. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_6425748.html


U.Va. Adopts New Fraternal Organization Agreement Aimed to Enhance Safety http://www.news.virginia.edu/content...enhance-safety

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Old 01-08-2015, 02:58 PM
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I am very pleased that the Greek community has risen to the occasion and has become a partner with the university in both recognizing and taking realistic steps to deal with this very serious problem on campus. This is what I have been hoping for all along.

They can be sure that they will no be under very observant eyes to ensure that they are fully complying with this agreement.
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Old 01-12-2015, 05:11 PM
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UVA has reinstated Phi Kappa Psi; see:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...r-inquiry.html

The article ^^ states, among other things,
“A police investigation found "no basis" for the allegations of sexual assault.”

See also the following, which indicates that the Char;ottesville police are still investigating and will put out a statement later.

http://www.universityherald.com/arti...us-article.htm

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Old 01-12-2015, 05:19 PM
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Have they reinstated all fraternities and sororities?
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Old 01-13-2015, 04:06 PM
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News is they have reinstated PKPsi. Nothing on the reswt as of yet! They all should be asap.

if there is a problem, don't act like Animal House and Revenge of the Nerds on campus for the Un!
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