Oprah's On: Town Hall Meeting: Imus Controversy: Now What? - Page 2

UrbanizdSkillz · #16 11-30-2005, 02:29 PM

I'm glad someone is finally open enough to talk about this addiction. It's got to be the most common and rampant one in the country yet folks don't want to talk about it. Go figure.

futurestar1 · #17 11-30-2005, 08:25 PM

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missed the Jamie show.

But I won't miss Kirk and his addiction!

The Jamie show was good. He flirts with Oprah sooooo bad, and she flirts right back. He sang songs from his new album. I love the one he wrote for his daughter, "Heaven Will Never Be the Same." He also presented Oprah with a painting he had made for her. It was a portrait of her in the red gown from her Legend's Ball. Great show!

starang21 · #18 11-30-2005, 08:51 PM

is porn really cheatting?

CrimsonTide4 · #19 11-30-2005, 10:37 PM

I am watching the Kirk Franklin interview now and have been a fan since his first single but today I love, respect and admire him and Tammy more for showing this to the world.

Oprah, chill back and let Kirk talk. You keep interrupting. GRRRRR

Tickled Pink 2 · #20 11-30-2005, 11:11 PM

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is porn really cheatting?

Yep.

starang21 · #21 12-01-2005, 09:03 AM

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Yep.

how so?

especially if you don't hide it.

ladylike · #22 12-01-2005, 09:30 AM

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is porn really cheatting?

I don't believe porn by itself is cheating. However, when it starts to replace the intimacy a person and his/her partner has then I believe it is a problem.

Professor · #23 12-01-2005, 01:41 PM

I'm really surprised the ladies are supporting Kirk. I thought he was a little cocky. I was surprised to learn he was adopted by a 64 year old female when he was 4 years old. I could not help but wonder if he has been molested.

My thing with Oprah, at times she acts like she is so removed from AA culture. She seemed shocked many AA men keep a stash of porn magazines. I'm not sure if folk in my age group still do but I remember before the internet older cousins had what we referred to as "dirty magazines."

Steeltrap · #24 12-01-2005, 02:00 PM

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I'm really surprised the ladies are supporting Kirk. I thought he was a little cocky. I was surprised to learn he was adopted by a 64 year old female when he was 4 years old. I could not help but wonder if he has been molested.

My thing with Oprah, at times she acts like she is so removed from AA culture. She seemed shocked many AA men keep a stash of porn magazines. I'm not sure if folk in my age group still do but I remember before the internet older cousins had what we referred to as "dirty magazines."

I will say that my father did keep a stash of porn mags, and would lock the master bedroom door when he'd watch his videos. He didn't want my nephew, who was a teenager at the time, to watch them.

CrimsonTide4 · #25 12-01-2005, 02:07 PM

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My thing with Oprah, at times she acts like she is so removed from AA culture. She seemed shocked many AA men keep a stash of porn magazines. I'm not sure if folk in my age group still do but I remember before the internet older cousins had what we referred to as "dirty magazines."

I was shocked at her being shocked that this happens. I don't see the stash though as being a Black thing. I know of White men who have a stash as well. I cannot remember if Kirk said it was a Black thing or not, or it was Oprah who made it that way. I am sure if Oprah asked Stedman or her dad and they were honest with her, they would admit to the affirmative.

I didn't see Kirk as being cocky or arrogant about it. Maybe I'm biased but I saw him as being real. I applaud him for being able to not only overcome the addiction but to speak out about it. It's one thing to tell your wife, friends and family, but to sing about it and come on Oprah and really speak on it. . . WOW (for me)

UrbanizdSkillz · #26 12-01-2005, 02:07 PM

My fathe kept a stash as well. I don't think I've met a person without a male in the family who keeps a stash, even if it's well hidden. I have SO much more respect for Kirk & Tammy (even though I've been a fan forever). Oprah, as usual, irritated me. She wouldn't allow for Kirk to speak half the time without her interrupting him. I was SO proud of Kirk because while he was admitting his flaws, he held steadfast to his faith throughout the entire interview.

Steeltrap · #27 12-01-2005, 02:11 PM

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I was shocked at her being shocked that this happens. I don't see the stash though as being a Black thing. I know of White men who have a stash as well. I cannot remember if Kirk said it was a Black thing or not, or it was Oprah who made it that way. I am sure if Oprah asked Stedman or her dad and they were honest with her, they would admit to the affirmative.

I didn't see Kirk as being cocky or arrogant about it. Maybe I'm biased but I saw him as being real. I applaud him for being able to not only overcome the addiction but to speak out about it. It's one thing to tell your wife, friends and family, but to sing about it and come on Oprah and really speak on it. . . WOW (for me)

I don't see it as being a black thing, either. I suspect men of all races stash porn away.

CrimsonTide4 · #28 12-01-2005, 02:15 PM

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I have SO much more respect for Kirk & Tammy (even though I've been a fan forever). Oprah, as usual, irritated me. She wouldn't allow for Kirk to speak half the time without her interrupting him. I was SO proud of Kirk because while he was admitting his flaws, he held steadfast to his faith throughout the entire interview.

DITTO!! I admire them as a Black couple. She held his hand or touched his leg throughout the interview.

And DITTO re: Oprah.

Professor · #29 12-01-2005, 02:25 PM

I'm just blown away. Hear we have a guy who so many Christians look up to and now we find out he is a "ho" as he put it - - - he is just like the rest of us. I'm not trying to be judgmental but he said he felt convicted by his sins and knew he was doing wrong from the time he began sleeping with girls at 9 and watching porn. Yet, he stood and preached the wages of sin until five years ago. I see him in a new light.

Also, "O" did not ask how he was able to overcome his addiction or did I miss the reply.

CrimsonTide4 · #30 12-01-2005, 02:28 PM

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I'm just blown away. Hear we have a guy who so many Christians look up to and now we find out he is a "ho" as he put it - - - he is just like the rest of us. I'm not trying to be judgmental but he said he felt convicted by his sins and knew he was doing wrong from the time he began sleeping with girls at 9 and watching porn. Yet, he stood and preached the wages of sin until five years ago. I see him in a new light.

Also, "O" did not ask how he was able to overcome his addiction or did I miss the reply.

new GOOD light? or new BAD light?