State of the Nation

[The Original Ape]

Originally posted by Ideal08:
Well said Original Ape!!!!! WELL SAID!!!

Thank you for that flowa, SIS!

[Professor]

Brother Original Ape,

Sorry I have not responded in a timelier manner. I have been out of the office. I am sorry that the election continues to be debated. As a starch Democrat and activist within the party, I'm afraid my opinion of the presidential election has not changed. Gore should give up.

However, I do agree with your comments that there have been contributing factors that impacted the chain of events. I only wish these events and perhaps actions can be rectified.

[The Original Ape]

Originally posted by Professor:
Brother Original Ape,

Sorry I have not responded in a timelier manner. I have been out of the office. I am sorry that the election continues to be debated. As a starch Democrat and activist within the party, I'm afraid my opinion of the presidential election has not changed. Gore should give up.

However, I do agree with your comments that there have been contributing factors that impacted the chain of events. I only wish these events and perhaps actions can be rectified.

I know I'm not the ONLY one that has noticed that the judge didn't have the common or legal sense to sample the ballots. If the argument concerned the style, condition of the ballot, doesn't it make sense to check them out? What was the judge's explanation for not doing so? I believe he didn't do it because he knew there wouldn't be much fallout from it, and decided to "hand off".
And then there is THE OTHER LAW SUIT. The vice-president and his mate can probably get some reconsideration going IF they employed the news media to carry the other suit with as high a priority as the primary case.

When all of the facts are laid out, I believe you and everyone else that thinks Gore should give up will have a change of heart.

[soror6]

I think that this situation is bigger than Gore at this point, and I don't think he should give up, either. Throughout history, particularly the history of the disenfranchised, the fight has never been easy. This is about justice, respect, and fairness. Although these words are not typically connected with politics, something needs to be done about the fact that so many people voted, and so many of these same people feel like their vote does not count. Will that influence how inspired they are to be proactive and vote in the next national or local election? Sometimes in order to get something done that has a positive collective benefit on the masses, the trailblazer becomes the martyr. If Gore has to assume this responsibility, then unfortunately so be it. I would like to see him in office as much as the next guy, however, if it doesn't happen, let's look at the bright side. Bush will be under such scrutiny, he will be afraid to do almost anything, and that is good! That will limit him to 4 years, and stop him from negatively messing with issues like Roe v. Wade, Affirmative Action, and many other diversity initiatives. Let him sit for 4 years until someone who is not a puppet for his father can take his place and get something done for ALL people!
Sincerely!
Jennifer
DST- Spring '91

[Ideal08]

I have a question for you all. I was discussing this with a girl that I work with and she thinks that by Gore not conceding it could hurt his chances in the next election should he lose this time and choose to run in 4 years. (Run-on sentence or what?) What do yall think about that? I would be more apt to vote for him if he stuck out the fight than if he concedes. Who wants a quitter? "It's when things get worse that you must not quit." Anyway, what do yall think? So you think it'll hurt his political career if he doesn't concede?

[This message has been edited by Ideal08 (edited December 06, 2000).]

[The Original Ape]

Originally posted by Ideal08:
I have a question for you all. I was discussing this with a girl that I work with and she thinks that by Gore not conceding it could hurt his chances in the next election should he lose this time and choose to run in 4 years. (Run-on sentence or what?) What do yall think about that? I would be more apt to vote for him if he stuck out the fight than if he concedes. Who wants a quitter? "It's when things get worse that you must not quit." Anyway, what do yall think? So you think it'll hurt his political career if he doesn't concede?

[This message has been edited by Ideal08 (edited December 06, 2000).]

Mix what you said/feel on this with what I said above, and you have what I think about it.

[Dexter]

Originally posted by mojo:
As usual Gore and the democrats are sore losers. At least the rest of the country won't lose also by having Gore president

What in the hell are you smoking? Are you black? You are obviously a Republican, so please answer this question, Can you honestly sit there and say that ALL AMERICANS do not reserve the right to have their vote count? Are the only people allowed to have their voices heard are those who have financial security? If W is so sure that he is the undisputed winner, then why is he scared to let ALL the votes be counted?
One thing is for sure he can never use the words" THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!" He and the rest of the republicans are terrified of the people. Democrats have brought forth a better nation in the last eight years. The twelve years before that SUCKED!!! Including the four that his Arms selling criminal ass daddy was running the country(Iran-Contra).
For further discussion www.bushizadope.com

[Dexter]

Originally posted by mojo:
As usual Gore and the democrats are sore losers. At least the rest of the country won't lose also by having Gore president

What in the hell are you smoking? Are you black? You are obviously a Republican, so please answer this question, Can you honestly sit there and say that ALL AMERICANS do not reserve the right to have their vote count? Are the only people allowed to have their voices heard are those who have financial security? If W is so sure that he is the undisputed winner, then why is he scared to let ALL the votes be counted?
One thing is for sure he can never use the words" THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!" He and the rest of the republicans are terrified of the people. Democrats have brought forth a better nation in the last eight years. The twelve years before that SUCKED!!! Including the four that his Arms selling criminal ass daddy was running the country(Iran-Contra).
For further discussion write to www.bushizastupidazzdope.com

[The Original Ape]

Originally posted by Dexter:

What in the hell are you smoking? Are you black? You are obviously a Republican, so please answer this question, Can you honestly sit there and say that ALL AMERICANS do not reserve the right to have their vote count? Are the only people allowed to have their voices heard are those who have financial security? If W is so sure that he is the undisputed winner, then why is he scared to let ALL the votes be counted?
One thing is for sure he can never use the words" THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!" He and the rest of the republicans are terrified of the people. Democrats have brought forth a better nation in the last eight years. The twelve years before that SUCKED!!! Including the four that his Arms selling criminal ass daddy was running the country(Iran-Contra).
For further discussion www.bushizadope.com

Dam Dex!

That was some GOOD shit! LOL

[The Original Ape]

Originally posted by The Original Ape:
Dam Dex!

That was some GOOD shit! LOL

SORRY 'BOUT THE PROFANITY, YALL! (still laughing)

[serenity_24]

Originally posted by Dexter:

What in the hell are you smoking? Are you black? You are obviously a Republican, so please answer this question, Can you honestly sit there and say that ALL AMERICANS do not reserve the right to have their vote count? Are the only people allowed to have their voices heard are those who have financial security? If W is so sure that he is the undisputed winner, then why is he scared to let ALL the votes be counted?
One thing is for sure he can never use the words" THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!" He and the rest of the republicans are terrified of the people. Democrats have brought forth a better nation in the last eight years. The twelve years before that SUCKED!!! Including the four that his Arms selling criminal ass daddy was running the country(Iran-Contra).
For further discussion write to www.bushizastupidazzdope.com [/B]

*With Fist in the Air* Right on brutha...RIGHT ON!!!!!

[Ideal08]

Originally posted by Dexter:

What in the hell are you smoking? Are you black? You are obviously a Republican, so please answer this question, Can you honestly sit there and say that ALL AMERICANS do not reserve the right to have their vote count? Are the only people allowed to have their voices heard are those who have financial security? If W is so sure that he is the undisputed winner, then why is he scared to let ALL the votes be counted?
One thing is for sure he can never use the words" THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!" He and the rest of the republicans are terrified of the people. Democrats have brought forth a better nation in the last eight years. The twelve years before that SUCKED!!! Including the four that his Arms selling criminal ass daddy was running the country(Iran-Contra).
For further discussion write to www.bushizastupidazzdope.com

Dexter, That was the absolute BEST!!!!!!! LMAO at "Including the four that his Arms selling criminal ass daddy was running the country"!!! Oh, that was the best!!!

[WenD08]

yay! some folks who do see the forest for the trees (except mojo). when you have votes thrown out of majority Black precincts, voters harassed, voters denied the right to vote, do you give up? if you say Gore should give up then your answer is yes. for those who see this as a step back into the '60s on back when Blacks were harassed and denied the right to vote then of course you say, keep fighting. so now, where are you?

[AKA_Monet]

Clinton said he wanted 4 more years in the White House... I think he found a way to circumvent our constitutional presidential term limit... AND where's our checks and balances on that one??? What if Clinton feels like he doesn't trust the final decision from any court--who will swear in the "new" president? (I'm in science so I am unaware what the legalities and protocols are in government).

Unfortunately, I think the "powers that be" will allow Bush to be president however Gore will put him in check every step of the way... What I wanna know is: Where's the money? Who's gettin' really pi$$aid for this ballot election fiasco?? --I wannabe wit' them!!! I wannabe a millionaire and that's my final answer...

[mojo]

No, I'm not a republican or a democrat. I vote for the best candidate.

Of course, everyone deserves to have their vote counted if you follow the balloting rules. You don't punch a clear hole or make some other mistake, have it corrected or no it doesn't count. Like with anything else, you play by the rules or don't play.

This is not isolated. "The People have Spoken". Do you think this is an exception. This happens every election. Some votes don't get counted because they are not properly marked, people in some states voting twice, people registered in more than one state voting in both states, people voting in the name of dead people, or democrats grabbing homeless and coaxing them to the ballot booth for a pack of smokes. These things happen every election.

The country has been great for the past eight years. Realize this, everything is a snowball. The last eight piggybacked off of the previous 12 as those piggybacked off of the previous 100, 200, 300, but I shan't go on.

As for what the former President Bush has done. Oh well. I know plenty of people whose fathers are in jail. Does that mean they too are fated to do the same?

Do you think this is helping Gore? No matter who wins this will be a one term presidency. Talk about the forest for the trees. Gore would've been a shoe in for the next presidency. Now, he is ruining that.

WAKE UP, THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL