UGA Quota Just Raised!!

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by SECglitter

Huh lol

I do believe she's confusing you with another UGA PNM.

[irishpipes]

I guess I'm thinking of a case a few years back - a large recruitment campus where all chapters were over 300 except for 1, which was under 200. Chapter total was at a lame 130ish, even though QUOTA was nearly that amount. If they don't reset to average chapter size, the chapter with the small membership is doomed to never catch up. To me that is an example of panhellenic misunderstanding the importance of a properly set total.

[Titchou]

Just because I'm feeling generous again, from the MOI:


When total is too low, the Panhellenic community is unable to grow because of lack of sufficient spaces to accommodate women interested in membership. When total is too low, the smaller chapters are unable to close the size disparity with the larger chapters.
When total is too high, parity is also difficult to achieve. Potential new members have incentives to withdraw from a structured recruitment process and join during continuous open bidding when they do not receive an invitation from one of the perceived “popular” chapters on campus. This trend can suppress quota as well and create wide gaps in size among the larger and smaller chapters.
Resolved (2003), That College Panhellenics review total annually; and
Resolved (2009), That the procedure for determining total now reads:
Total is the allowable chapter size as determined by the College Panhellenic and includes both new members and initiated members. Any member who is away from campus for the entire academic year is not counted in total. Members away for one academic term are counted in total. The Panhellenic reviews total each year to ensure that existing total reflects current campus conditions and the Panhellenic goal of growth and parity, and to allow the maximum number of women to participate in the fraternity experience;
Resolved (2009), That College Panhellenics review total following recruitment when chapters are at their largest. If it is determined that total should be revised, after consultation with the NPC area advisor and their respective inter/national organizations, total may be determined by:
1. The average chapter size, rounded down to the nearest whole number.
2. The median chapter size (for example, the size of the fifth-largest chapter in a system with nine NPC groups).
3. The size of the largest chapter(s).
Total may also be determined by any one of the above, combined with a number that reflects the best adjustment to total to ensure continued growth opportunities, parity, housing obligations, availability of campus facility and vitality of the College Panhellenic community;

[33girl]

I know that it's the correct thing to do. I just wonder if it will have the desired effect, or if it will cause a second wave of "I am that special snowflake that can get the one spot the most popular group has"-itis. If that happens, it doesn't help the smaller chapters at all.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Just because I'm feeling generous again, from the MOI:

In the event that you are not feeling generous, anyone can access the 17th edition of the NPC Manual of Information (updated March 2012), online, here:

http://www.uta.edu/greek/_downloads/...nformation.pdf

(in this case, page 78 of manual, 84th page of pdf file)

[HQWest]

It's also a problem if raising total on a year with record numbers means that a bunch of chapters have problems when numbers go down a bit.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by HQWest

It's also a problem if raising total on a year with record numbers means that a bunch of chapters have problems when numbers go down a bit.

Not really, because total can also be reassessed and lowered.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Not really, because total can also be reassessed and lowered.

Much harder to convince groups that are still at or above total that they should agree to lower total even if smaller groups are really struggling. It usually means waiting until 2/3 of groups have fallen below total to get the CPH to agree to lower it and that can take a while.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I do believe she's confusing you with another UGA PNM.

Yep. Sorry for the mixup. Hope everything works out for you.

[SECglitter]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Yep. Sorry for the mixup. Hope everything works out for you.

Rhode Island? Did you think I was that "southerndoll" girl? Omg did ya'll ever identify her

*sorry for lurking

[33girl]

Originally Posted by HQWest

Much harder to convince groups that are still at or above total that they should agree to lower total even if smaller groups are really struggling. It usually means waiting until 2/3 of groups have fallen below total to get the CPH to agree to lower it and that can take a while.

Yes. Thank you. Exactly. IMO better to really work the RFM, destigmatize taking spring pledge classes, and leave total where it is rather than raise it too quickly, without taking all factors (example, high birth rate for that year's freshman class) into account. Once it gets raised it's damn near impossible to get the larger groups to consent to lowering it. Even if the NPC specialist says that's what needs to be done, the members of the school's Panhel are still the ones with the ultimate vote.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by HQWest

Much harder to convince groups that are still at or above total that they should agree to lower total even if smaller groups are really struggling. It usually means waiting until 2/3 of groups have fallen below total to get the CPH to agree to lower it and that can take a while.

That wouldn't change no matter when you change total, but a good adviser will make sure that the chapters understand the rationale behind adjusting total. Lowering total doesn't effect the groups at or above total anyway.

[AZTheta]

SECglitter! you crack me up. You funny.

Stay cool; stay out of the side convos; and just take things a day at a time. OK? I personally hope that it all works out for you and that you end up finding your home. OK!

All this talk about total makes me think of cereal.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

SECglitter! you crack me up. You funny.

Stay cool; stay out of the side convos; and just take things a day at a time. OK? I personally hope that it all works out for you and that you end up finding your home. OK!

All this talk about total makes me think of cereal.

Did you eat dinner?

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

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Did you eat dinner?

guess it was the mint chocolate chip ice cream...you fake scientist. you not miss a trick. (those are for thetygerlily)

/back to TOTAL @ UGA