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02-12-2012, 10:02 AM
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Should have said it outright
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Everybody alludes to it, nobody is saying it outright. News reports are that Bobby Brown was devastated by the news.
A producer from the Grammy's says they are working with Jennifer Hudson on doing some sort of recognition to Whitney but it won't be a full blown memorial tribute because it is just too soon for that.
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02-12-2012, 12:35 PM
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She was so much more than her demons and addictions. 
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Amen.
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Anybody else hear Simon Cowell talking about it on CNN? He came so close to blaming Bobby Brown for Whitney's fall, but he stopped just short of saying it outright.
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Anyone who blames Bobby for Whitney's "fall" is so clueless...she was not a pristine little choir girl who married the bad boy, no matter what her press agents at the time would have liked everyone to believe.
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02-12-2012, 01:13 PM
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Amen.
Anyone who blames Bobby for Whitney's "fall" is so clueless...she was not a pristine little choir girl who married the bad boy, no matter what her press agents at the time would have liked everyone to believe.
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I'm getting annoyed at all the posts about Bobby ruining her life. A person chooses whether they will use drugs or not. Yes there are outside influences but ultimately the choice is up to you! Stop making excuses for people. Yes she was talented and her songs are pretty damn amazing but no one held a gun to her head to do drugs. Some people are mentioning that she should be a role model for leaving Bobby Brown. Really? I want my children's role models to be crack heads at some point. I would want them to look at this and see that no matter how successful you are, there are evils that THEY CAN CHOOSE that could end their success like this.
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02-12-2012, 01:26 PM
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Amen.
Anyone who blames Bobby for Whitney's "fall" is so clueless...she was not a pristine little choir girl who married the bad boy, no matter what her press agents at the time would have liked everyone to believe.
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I'm getting annoyed at all the posts about Bobby ruining her life. A person chooses whether they will use drugs or not. Yes there are outside influences but ultimately the choice is up to you! Stop making excuses for people. Yes she was talented and her songs are pretty damn amazing but no one held a gun to her head to do drugs. Some people are mentioning that she should be a role model for leaving Bobby Brown. Really? I want my children's role models to be crack heads at some point. I would want them to look at this and see that no matter how successful you are, there are evils that THEY CAN CHOOSE that could end their success like this.
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Agreed. Honestly Bobby is a person, too. For all his faults he, I'm sure, is mourning her loss. Relationships are not one-sided.
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02-12-2012, 01:26 PM
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She frequently spoke in interviews about how similar she and Bobby were before they married. The image of choir girl and bad boy was a media creation, although I will say that once you put two people with those kinds of predilections together (along with all that disposable income and hangers on with a vested interest in keeping the party going), it's a recipe for disaster.
Reports are now saying she was found submerged in the bath tub and there were several people in the hotel room while it happened but no one was alarmed that she'd been in there for over an hour. Sad.
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02-13-2012, 10:19 PM
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Some people are mentioning that she should be a role model for leaving Bobby Brown.
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WHAAAAAT????? These must be the same idiots who said that Sandra Bullock was "the most admired woman in the entertainment industry" because that trailer trash Jesse James dumped HER.
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02-11-2012, 11:49 PM
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She was mentioned on E! News just last night something about Grammy parties and they showed a clip of her with her daughter in LA.
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02-12-2012, 12:16 AM
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Overheard some ladies talking about it while shopping. I didn't believe it till I saw the TMZ article.
Never thought Bobby would out live her.
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02-12-2012, 04:35 AM
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I've seen a huge outpouring of love from Whitney fans tonight and now that the initial shock is wearing off, people are showing their behinds. It's like Amy Winehouse all over again. I feel the same way now as I did then: It doesn't matter what hardships a person had (whether self-inflicted or not), there are things you just don't say about people while others are grieving them. There are some things you just don't say about people at all.
The things I'm seeing and hearing (elsewhere on the interwebz) are so distasteful. She had a huge influence on many lives and, more importantly, she was family to somebody no matter what she did. Now is the time to honor her memory or be indifferent if you want, not claim her faults as reasons no one should grieve her.
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02-13-2012, 11:11 AM
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I've seen a huge outpouring of love from Whitney fans tonight and now that the initial shock is wearing off, people are showing their behinds. It's like Amy Winehouse all over again. I feel the same way now as I did then: It doesn't matter what hardships a person had (whether self-inflicted or not), there are things you just don't say about people while others are grieving them. There are some things you just don't say about people at all.
The things I'm seeing and hearing (elsewhere on the interwebz) are so distasteful. She had a huge influence on many lives and, more importantly, she was family to somebody no matter what she did. Now is the time to honor her memory or be indifferent if you want, not claim her faults as reasons no one should grieve her.
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I don't believe in bashing people, airing their dirty laundry (alive or dead), however why is it that when someone dies they all of a sudden become a saint beyond measure and not a bad word can be said about them (Whitney Houston, Famous, or otherwise)?
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02-13-2012, 11:21 AM
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I don't believe in bashing people, airing their dirty laundry (alive or dead), however why is it that when someone dies they all of a sudden become a saint beyond measure and not a bad word can be said about them (Whitney Houston, Famous, or otherwise)?
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I think there's a difference between making someone a saint and vilifying someone because of their addictions. I would imagine CG's referring to the folks that are saying she doesn't deserve to be mourned because she "brought it on herself."
For two reasons: Still don't know yet the role drug use played in her death, AND such statements show a profound misunderstanding of addiction as an illness.
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02-13-2012, 12:31 PM
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According to TMZ, the preliminary coroner's findings are that she died from mixing multiple prescription drugs with alcohol:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitne...owning-atlanta
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02-13-2012, 01:47 PM
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I agree that we should mourn the passing of a substantial talent and have deep sympathy for her, but I am somewhat taken aback by the volume and extent of praise and adulation heaped upon someone who misused drugs and alcohol to such an extent that she instrumental in her own death.
I would suggest that we pray for her, as I did when I heard the news, and then try to view this as a cautionary tale that there are consequences to acts of self destruction. Responsibility attends one's actions.
Sincere sympathy - yes! Prayers - yes! Praise and adulation - somewhat inappropriate.
Let us remember her, let us feel for her, but at the end of the day perhaps praise and adulation are more appropriate to someone a bit more like Mother Theresa of Calcutta.
Now, considering that I believe absolutely in the infinite mercy of Our Lord I am confident that Ms. Houston, along with Mother Theresa, is safely home with Our Lord in Heaven. So, no I am not playing the awful game of holier than thou. I am saying that one can have love and sympathy for her without holding her up as a role model to be emulated.
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02-12-2012, 09:13 AM
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How awful. She had such unimaginable talent.
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02-12-2012, 02:10 PM
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Annie Lennox, from her blog, posted on FB:
"It's almost unbearable to think of yet another OUTSTANDING artist being prematurely snuffed out like a light…far too soon. I'm torn between the profound awe I have for the incredible voices of Whitney and Amy, and the horror I feel over the destructive natures of their respective demise. So many phenomenal performers have fallen between the cracks like this. It makes me feel so sad. I've been looking at YouTube clips of Whitney today, and reflecting on her tremendous rise to massive fame as a young woman. She had it all…Beauty..exceptional talent.. fame..wealth..But when the life/work/fame balance gets out of kilter, and you start putting drugs into the mix, it's completely toxic. What a terrible tragic waste. So sad."
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