Smoking In-House

[knight_shadow]

Is there a reason people aren't smoking in the back of the house? The young folks make things way too difficult lol

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Is there a reason people aren't smoking in the back of the house? The young folks make things way too difficult lol

LOL. This is what I'm wondering. This is what people did in our houses in undergrad. Pretty common knowledge that if you wanted to smoke, you needed to do so out back. Whether it was 70 or -10 outside.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

LOL. This is what I'm wondering. This is what people did in our houses in undergrad. Pretty common knowledge that if you wanted to smoke, you needed to do so out back. Whether it was 70 or -10 outside.

Same here. I don't get what the big deal is. You walk out back, smoke, come back inside.

[Gusteau]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Is there a reason people aren't smoking in the back of the house? The young folks make things way too difficult lol

The OP's house is probably off-campus in a residential neighborhood with neighbors who complain about the noise of people smoking out back. At least that's the case for most chapters at my university.

And since it will probably be asked, at my chapter no one is allowed outside to smoke, period, because of noise issues. Smoking is not permitted inside.

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

And since it will probably be asked, at my chapter no one is allowed outside to smoke, period, because of noise issues. Smoking is not permitted inside.

Forgive my ignorance with this question, but I've never smoked so I've never encountered this problem...but so then what do the smokers in your fraternity do? Do they go down the street to smoke? Are you just known as a "no smoking" fraternity on your campus?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

The OP's house is probably off-campus in a residential neighborhood with neighbors who complain about the noise of people smoking out back. At least that's the case for most chapters at my university.

And since it will probably be asked, at my chapter no one is allowed outside to smoke, period, because of noise issues. Smoking is not permitted inside.

I hope people aren't going outside in groups of 300 to smoke. My chapter's houses were both off-campus, so if we went outside, we went out in groups of no more than 5.

And smoking is not permitted outside or inside?

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by SOM

AGDee-I am not sure if I am following or understanding your posting.
Most, if not all, offices buildings I have either worked or walked into have "No-Smoking" signs posted.

NYC has a major non-smoklng policy. As do other cities.

My guestions was, and is, asking if there are any bans or controls on smoking in dorms or any living quarters. Or school related buildings for that matter.

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Her posting means that no place has said "Smoking is not allowed indoors." That would mean no one could smoke in their own home. What many places have done is say something like "Smoking is not allowed in a public building" or "This is a smoke-free building." Banning smoking in public buildings =/= banning smoking "indoors."

Thank you MC

[SOM]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Thank you MC

I have learned, the hard way, that one should not make general sweeping comments.
In the past few months the news carried stories from NYC that laws were being looked at in controlling out-door smoking in public areas.
And that is the only story I remember-there could be more.

And the point of my questions was not really totally based on heath issues.
I was think more along the lines of public safety and risk management. There have been a rash of fires in dorms and other campus/student housing units caused by smoking and open flames.

And that would be a whole separate issue from private housing or homes.

We have seen, all too may times, that rules, policies, and laws are very different between jurisdictions.

So it would be well worth a look if one is reviewing polices.

[Gusteau]

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24

Forgive my ignorance with this question, but I've never smoked so I've never encountered this problem...but so then what do the smokers in your fraternity do? Do they go down the street to smoke? Are you just known as a "no smoking" fraternity on your campus?

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I hope people aren't going outside in groups of 300 to smoke. My chapter's houses were both off-campus, so if we went outside, we went out in groups of no more than 5.

And smoking is not permitted outside or inside?

Sorry I should have been clearer. My campus does not recognize Greek housing, so by "house" I mean the place where brothers live and we occasionally have parties. Basically, during parties no one smokes, beyond that situation you just go outside.

[dnall]

All these tangent issues aside...

It's a very legitimate issue that they can't have a congregation of people outside during a party. It attracts attention. An open door lets out noise. Constant in/out traffic indicates an uncontrolled entrance, which (in my state) means law enforcement can come in without probable cause.

Having parties shut down for noise &/or people getting providing/MIP tickets is worse than dealing with a smell issue. That said, the smell issue has become a problem too, so they have to deal with it now.

I don't know the facility we're talking about here, so it's hard to find the easy solution that probably exists.

I would not be looking at filtered ventilation systems. They are expensive and require too much maintenance.

I'd try to figure something else out that eliminates the other issues with people smoking outside. For instance, is there something like a back porch I could tarp off & put a portable heater in during events (a lot of bars/restaurants do this with their patio areas when temps dip and they want to keep use of the space). If that's workable, I'd consider walling it in later on. If not, I could inexpensively add a covered area like that without a lot of hassle.

That may not be the best solution for this specific property, but I think it's headed in the right direction. We're doing something we don't like because of XYZ. So, we just need to mitigate XYZ so those factors become the lesser of the two evils. Banning or not banning smoking doesn't seem to solve the problem.

[ZetaGirl22]

I am a smoker, although wish I NEVER picked up that first cigarette, but that's beside the point. I was also a smoker when a collegian and there was no smoking in our house period. (Pretty obvious, since it was a sorority house) There was also no smoking on the front porch. We were all relegated to the side porch rain, shine, sleet, snow, cold, whatever. I didn't have a problem with it. DH's house was a different story (although I am positive there is probably no smoking in his house anymore-this was 10 years ago). You could smoke in the bedrooms if both roommates were ok with it and in the basement, so the basement always smelled like stale beer and cigarettes. YUM! Because I never smoked in the house in college, I transferred that over to when I got my own place. We have never smoked indoors at anyplace I have ever lived since college. I actually prefer it. I have been over to smoker's houses who smoke indoors and it literally reeks. If you smoke inside, it stinks up all your stuff..........its terrible! At least my clothes don't reek. I should probably just quit. I hate both the taste AND smell of cigarettes yet I continue to smoke. That's how crazy nicotine is LOL!