3 people die in shooting at the University of Alabama in Huntsville

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kappamd

There has been discussion on another board I frequent about her having invented some sort of cell incubator, the patent to which the University forced her to turn over to them. If true (I haven't had time to do any digging), this could have been an exacerbating factor.

Well, she should've seen it coming if she signed the "intellectual property" contract that faculty and graduate students have to sign at many schools.

[Little32]

@honeychile: Not always, but people generally know what's up by year four or so (people generally apply for tenure around the fifth or sixth year--at least in my field). They know whether they are on track in terms of what they have to demonstrate/accomplish to be awarded tenure. They should also have a sense of whether they are up for a battle, because of politics, if they have been keeping their ear to the ground. All of this to say it is--in the majority of cases--not really a surprise when someone either does or does not receive tenure. I have known cases where folks who know, or have a strong feeling, that they are not going to receive tenure at their current institution have begun looking for a position elsewhere rather than even going through the process.

There are always exceptions though.

[Senusret I]

Is it true that all this woman's victims were of color?

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Is it true that all this woman's victims were of color?

What? I haven't heard that. I hope not.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Is it true that all this woman's victims were of color?

I saw their pictures on the news a few days ago and took note of the fact that all three were racial and ethnic minorities. However, I didn't want to jump to any conclusions about her motive in that regard.

[DrPhil]

From what I saw the 3 fatally shot colleagues were racial and ethnic minorities. I have not seen a photo of all 6 colleagues.

That would be interesting but not shocking if she felt as many do, that she was denied advancements because of the advancements of minorities.

Also:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35404881...rts/?GT1=43001

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

From what I saw the 3 colleagues were racial and ethnic minorities.

Also:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35404881...rts/?GT1=43001

And the plot thickens, DUN DUN DUN! Everyone jump to conclusions NOW!! We all know that whites are racist, and that women, in general, are mentally imbalanced and needy. Since she IS a white woman it's clearly evident that this was a PMS fueled hate crime.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

And the plot thickens, DUN DUN DUN! Everyone jump to conclusions NOW!! We all know that whites are racist, and that women, in general, are mentally imbalanced and needy. Since she IS a white woman it's clearly evident that this was a PMS fueled hate crime.

Settle down, Beavis.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

And the plot thickens, DUN DUN DUN! Everyone jump to conclusions NOW!! We all know that whites are racist, and that women, in general, are mentally imbalanced and needy. Since she IS a white woman it's clearly evident that this was a PMS fueled hate crime.

Hurry and pat yourself on the back for this attempt at sarcasm.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Hurry and pat yourself on the back for this attempt at sarcasm.

I wasn't going for sarcasm, I was going for ridiculousness. Kind of like Senusret bringing up the fact that the victims may all be minorities, which is insinuating that this was RACIALLY MOTIVATED. Like I said, Lets all just jump to conclusions!

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I wasn't going for sarcasm

Which is unfortunate because you're the only one jumping to conclusions.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I wasn't going for sarcasm, I was going for ridiculousness. Kind of like Senusret bringing up the fact that the victims may all be minorities, which is insinuating that this was RACIALLY MOTIVATED. Like I said, Lets all just jump to conclusions!

I didn't bring up any facts. I asked a question.

You made an insinuation.

[starang21]

what were the ethnicities?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by starang21

what were the ethnicities?

Look at the link I provided.

[srmom]

There are eyewitness accounts all over the web today. According to the people that were in the meeting. She opened fire first to the person next to her, who happened to be the head of the department, then she went person by person down the line of people on her side of the table. The people across from her dove under the table and while she was reloading, they pushed her out and barracaded the door. So, it seems as if it was randomly based on where people were sitting.

Also, interestingly, one person, I think her last name is Marietta or something, I'll try to look it up, is credited with saving everybody. She grabbed the woman's leg and spoke with her trying to talk her down. The woman then turned the gun at her but it was empty. While she was reloading, that woman led the charge to get her out of the room. She was the woman's closest friend in the department, and I believe she was African American (by her picture which is on some of the news websites).

Anyway, all that leaves me to believe that it was coincidence and not racially motivated as to who got shot and in what order.

Here it is:

"I believe that she acted very quickly to try and stop Dr. Bishop from shooting again," University of Alabama Huntsville president David Williams told "Good Morning America" today, adding that professor Debra Moriarity had asked him not to talk too much about her role in stopping Amy Bishop's alleged rampage that killed three and wounded three others. "It's just unbelievable that someone could act that way in such terrible circumstances."

Moriarity, 55, is a professor whose lab was next door to Bishop's lab. She was also believed to be Bishop's closest friend in the department.

In an interview with the Chronicle of Higher Education, Moriarity gave a moment by moment account of how a departmental meeting was turned into a slaughterhouse.

The shooting erupted about an hour into the meeting when a dozen people were sitting at a round table. Moriarity was looking at some papers when Bishop stood and fired a shot at the person closest to her. When she looked up, the chairman of the department Gopi K. Podila had been shot in the head and Bishop was firing a second round at the person sitting next to Podila, Adriel D. Johnson Sr., Moriarity said.

Bishop was going down the line, shooting each person in the head, although the sixth person was shot in the chest, she told the magazine.

Moriarity and others who were sitting on the side of the table furthest from Bishop "dropped to the floor," according to survivor Joseph Ng, who described the incident to a friend in an e-mail.

Moriarity said crawled across the floor under the table to Bishop. "I was thinking 'Oh, my God, this has to stop," she said.

The professor said she pulled and then pushed on Bishop's leg, yelling, "I have helped you before, I can help you again!"

Bishop pulled her leg away from Moriarity's grip and kept shooting, she said. Moriarity crawled past Bishop and partly into the hallway when she said Bishop turned towards her friend, the gun gripped with both hands and a look of fury on her face.

"Intense eyes, a set jaw," Moriarity told the Chronicle. As Moriarity, still on her hands and knees, looked up helplessly at her one-time friend, Bishop pulled the trigger. Click. She fired again. Click.

As Bishop stopped to reload, Moriarity and the others pushed Bishop out of the room and quickly barricaded the door with a table so Bishop couldn't reenter the room and resume shooting.

"Moriarity was probably the one that saved our lives. She was the one that initiated the rush," Ng told the Associated Press. "It took a lot of guts to just go up to her."

"There was a time when I didn't think I'd come out of the room alive," he said. "I don't think any of us thought we'd come out alive."

Woops: Moriarity, I was close... Woops, and not African American, I must have mistaken her picture with one of the victims.

Anyway, tragic and awful for everyone involved!