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Old 12-03-2009, 05:28 PM
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EW, do you think they will rent/lease out the house to another group? or will Sigma Nu buy it and turn it into a gameroom?
They likely will but I'm not ACTUALLY sure who owns the house.

The thing is, with the new UofA plans....the University maaaaay own the house or have some sort of power over it. They had an RD living in the house for sure and may have financed some of the remodeling.

Either way, someone will move back in. If Phi Delt has real control over the house...the move-inner would be retarded to actually move in. That's what happened to Sig Ep some time ago. LXA got kicked off and Sig Ep rented from them. But once LXA came back on, Sig Ep was homeless. Phi Delt will be back on, I can certainly count on that. It's sad stuff. Phi Delt was one of the houses I hung out with alot.

And other related sad news, an SAE died yesterday. Word is it was drug related, but I don't know if it was in house or out of house.
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:30 AM
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Just wanted to add this, b/c I saw that a pledge almost died with a BAC of .68!!!!!!! REALLY!?!? How is that person still alive?!?

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Northwest Arkansas
December 3, 2009
http://www.4029tv. com/news/ 21798132/ detail.html

Phi Delta Theta Fraternity Dissolves UA Chapter

FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. -- The Phi Delta Theta International Fraternity
announced that it is suspending the charter for the University of Arkansas
chapter of Phi Delta Theta.

Around 200 fraternity members were notified of the decision during a
meeting at the Reynolds Center Auditorium on campus Wednesday night.

After conducting an investigation in conjunction with the University of
Arkansas and local alumni regarding the Nov. 12 incident at the fraternity
house, the fraternity's governing body voted to suspend the UA chapter's
charter for "violations of the Fraternity's risk management policies
including alcohol and hazing."

A freshman pledge nearly died from a blood alcohol content of .68.

"Although the actions taken were the province of the fraternity's
international office, we respect both the decision and the decision-making
process," said university Chancellor David Gearhart.

No current member of the Arkansas Alpha chapter can use the fraternity's
name in association with any event or activity, display the name or symbols
of the fraternity, or continue an operation or semblance of operations as a
Phi Delta Theta chapter, fraternity officials said.

"Decisions such as this are not made easily or taken lightly. As a former
fraternity member myself, I recognize the considerable positive academic
and social impact that Greek organizations can have on the lives of young
men and women. However, we cannot stand idly by when an organization
creates an environment that puts those very lives at risk. Such
organizations must, at all times, exercise social responsibility and caring
for one another," Gearhart said.

While some believe the punishment is fitting, others believe it's too harsh.

"I mean, at every fraternity party, things happen. And they shouldn't kick
them off campus because of that," said UA freshman Alex Murphy.

"It's a really sad day. I mean, some things that occurred there at the
house was pretty bad," said UA fraternity member Hamilton Blocker.

For the 55 members who live at the fraternity house, senior associate dean
of students Ashley Tull said they will have to be out by Sunday, and will
be placed in university housing instead.

"We're working to reassign them to residence halls and we have available
space for them," said Tull.

Phi Delta Theta representatives will remain on campus for the rest of the
week to explore the option of starting over and forming a new chapter in
the near future.

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Old 12-04-2009, 01:00 PM
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Out of the house by Sunday? Ouch!!!
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:16 PM
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Out of the house by Sunday? Ouch!!!
Yeah, that sucks especially since it's about to be finals week on Wednesday.

No good. I'll miss those guys.
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:21 AM
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A little bit of follow up on this story:

Nationals is moving into their house as well as the current pledges. They won't be able to become a full-blown chapter until their senior years.

Some may see this as a good thing. It is an absolutely terrible idea (as long as they are able to rent the house out to another fraternity...which I believe would be possible). The pledges will have no idea how to rush University of Arkansas fraternity men and the Phi Delt nationals will be a mess, as most nationals are. The reputation will go downhill, which is unfortunate for a fraternity who had a great deal of good reputation.
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Old 12-13-2009, 01:19 PM
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Elephant Walk:A little bit of follow up on this story:

Nationals is moving into their house as well as the current pledges. They won't be able to become a full-blown chapter until their senior years.

When you say National is moving into their house, do you mean someone from their National staff or a member(s) of the chapter's Alumni Board/ House Corp.?

Also, if current pledges, by their senior year (probably by 2012/2013) would be able to become a full-blown chapter, what status are they now... a colony working toward re-chartering?
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Old 12-13-2009, 05:18 PM
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When you say National is moving into their house, do you mean someone from their National staff or a member(s) of the chapter's Alumni Board/ House Corp.?
From what I understand, it will be someone from their national staff. Or several people. I could be wrong on this, but that's my understanding. Now, I would much prefer the Alumni Board but I don't think that's the case.

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Also, if current pledges, by their senior year (probably by 2012/2013) would be able to become a full-blown chapter, what status are they now... a colony working toward re-chartering?
That's my understanding as well, colony working towards recharter.
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Right away they pretty much have to choose between their loyalty to the men who recruited them and the national organization.
I'd add that they're choosing between their loyalty to their plan to join an established organization with upperclassman mentors vs. the national organization. If I'm a freshman who joined a big, established fraternity, it's because I was looking for that experience. A colony, especially a three-year colony, is a whole different ball of wax, and probably not what I intended to join. EW, can you tell us whether the PDT pledges would get the time of day at other UA fraternities if they left right now, or whether the PDT colony is realistically their only fraternity option?
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EW, can you tell us whether the PDT pledges would get the time of day at other UA fraternities if they left right now, or whether the PDT colony is realistically their only fraternity option?
I mean, PDT pledges are in some degree of demand. They're generally Highland Park/Little Rock private school kids. Probably half would get into pretty good fraternities and probably half would get into slightly lesser fraternities right now if they chose to leave. Getting kicked off isn't stigmatic (word?), but not rushing is. When Sigma Nu got kicked off some years ago, alot of them went Pike when Pike was doing better so they'd have a home. It's quite possible they could quit altogether and acquiesce to another house. That's probably what I would do if I were in their place. They have options.

It wouldn't be an issue if they left now. To be honest, other fraternities that they might join if they leave will probably be more like the Phi Delt they joined then the Phi Delt that will become from the influx of nationals and other influences.
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