Gun toting mom found dead - Page 2

Kevin · #16 10-09-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

You didn't need to use the word "you" because that implies that you think I am included in your ideas about how people who live in the northeast feel about guns. You don't actually KNOW my feelings about guns so don't lump me in that group.

Darlin', I wasn't even replying to you. The internet is not about you.

DaemonSeid · #17 10-09-2009, 05:59 PM

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Oh shut the hell up.

Really though... attitudes are different in the northeast with regard to concealed weapons. Look at the laws. I don't know whether you're in the NE or not. If you are, then yes, I'm referring to you. If not, then no. It really isn't too difficult to divine the meaning of what I said.

DI2....I actually get the gist of what he is saying (and Kevin correct me if I am wrong) but most of us middle to north easterners live in or near large urban areas where guns are already enough of a problem and we (regardless of racial or social backgrounds) have no real need to perpetuate the problem BY CARRYING a gun also, which is why, IMO it's lost on me that Oklahomans have a need to carry a gun to a soccer game if it's just the norm.

deepimpact2 · #18 10-09-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Darlin', I wasn't even replying to you. The internet is not about you.

Then don't say "you" northeasterners.

It really is that simple.

deepimpact2 · #19 10-09-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

DI2....I actually get the gist of what he is saying (and Kevin correct me if I am wrong) but most of us middle to north easterners live in or near large urban areas where guns are already enough of a problem and we (regardless of racial or social backgrounds) have no real need to perpetuate the problem BY CARRYING a gun also, which is why, IMO it's lost on me that Oklahomans have a need to carry a gun to a soccer game if it's just the norm.

I know what YOU mean DS, but his choice of words was very poor. And he is making too many assumptions out of nowhere. I don't even know how he decided that "us" northeasterners feel any sort of way when no one had actually made any substantive comments prior to his post. I posted the story, Dr. Phil said it was ironic. I'm still trying to figure out how we got to "us" northeasterners and "our" attitude about guns. I mean. at that point, what northeasterners had actually SAID anything about how they felt about guns?

KSig RC · #20 10-09-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

You didn't need to use the word "you" because that implies that you think I am included in your ideas about how people who live in the northeast feel about guns. You don't actually KNOW my feelings about guns so don't lump me in that group.

The phrase "you folks in the Northeast" is perfectly correct from a grammar standpoint, and is non-inclusive either by connotation or denotation. Taking offense to it is silly.

Even if you assume it to be a generalized majority (which seems fair), you have to lump yourself into that majority group to get anywhere near the level you're aiming for.

DaemonSeid · #21 10-09-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I know what YOU mean DS, but his choice of words was very poor. And he is making too many assumptions out of nowhere. I don't even know how he decided that "us" northeasterners feel any sort of way when no one had actually made any substantive comments prior to his post. I posted the story, Dr. Phil said it was ironic. I'm still trying to figure out how we got to "us" northeasterners and "our" attitude about guns. I mean. at that point, what northeasterners had actually SAID anything about how they felt about guns?

I disagree.

I think that if I asked enough folks across the different strata they may also find what Oklahomans do a bit different.

DGTess · #22 10-09-2009, 06:12 PM

Criminals prey on the weak and unprotected. Carrying a gun, particularly openly as Melanie Hain did, lets the bad guy know you're neither.

Average response time for police varies from area to area, but you can almost guarantee when the dipshit whacko starts shooting at a kids' soccer game, or a college campus, or a mall, or a church, or any other place "you don't need a gun", the police won't be there in time to stop it.

DaemonSeid · #23 10-09-2009, 06:16 PM

Well it didn't protect Melanie from her husband.

This article (and I am not sure if it's the same as originally posted) confirms that Scott did it.

He shot her with his own gun while hers was in a backpack at the front door.

Yeah.

Kevin · #24 10-09-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

DI2....I actually get the gist of what he is saying (and Kevin correct me if I am wrong) but most of us middle to north easterners live in or near large urban areas where guns are already enough of a problem and we (regardless of racial or social backgrounds) have no real need to perpetuate the problem BY CARRYING a gun also, which is why, IMO it's lost on me that Oklahomans have a need to carry a gun to a soccer game if it's just the norm.

We're weird about exercising our Constitutional liberties 'round these parts. What can I say?

DaemonSeid · #25 10-09-2009, 07:44 PM

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We're weird about exercising our Constitutional liberties 'round these parts. What can I say?

And that's why I got what you said with the 'you northeasterners' remark and when I read it happened in Lebanon PA...wweeeeeelll.

But back to the meat of the story itself.

Sad that a gun toting gun rights advocate just happened to die by her husband's gun.

What the community and family there may never find out will be how much abuse if any she suffered under her husband and why she didn't shoot him instead.

Going by what you said, carrying a gun for protection, well you almost have to figure the one she needed to be protected from the most lived under the same roof.

Kevin · #26 10-09-2009, 07:47 PM

DI2, did you know that French people like cheese and wine?

-- God I hope you're not French 'cuz that'd somehow be offensive to you as well I guess?

SWTXBelle · #27 10-09-2009, 09:04 PM

If the shoe doesn't fit - don't wear it.
- Cinderella

deepimpact2 · #28 10-09-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

DI2, did you know that French people like cheese and wine?

-- God I hope you're not French 'cuz that'd somehow be offensive to you as well I guess?

This shows just how idiotic you are. This statement is nothing like what you posted.

And I don't consider NC to be a northeastern state.

But to solidify what's being said...
You wouldn't find it offensive if I said "you boys of xyz frat are really racist in your candidate selection process," right?

deepimpact2 · #29 10-09-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

The phrase "you folks in the Northeast" is perfectly correct from a grammar standpoint, and is non-inclusive either by connotation or denotation. Taking offense to it is silly.

Um and that would be wrong. He could have easily said, "people in the northeast..." You know that. But because you are just determined to be on the opposite of whatever I am saying, you are trying to find a way to make what he said okay.

DaemonSeid · #30 10-09-2009, 09:29 PM

DI this is where I have to step in.

1. Your article. The incident happened in PA Carrying around a gun, much less to a kids sporting event was not deemed normal.

2. Kevin's comment in proximity to your OP because you were in shock.

3. Kevin made it abundantly clear that it's common in Oklahoma that people to carry concealed weapons.

3a. And due to that, his 'you northeasterners' I divine to be in reference to the people in PA who were up in arms about this woman bearing arms who made her get her licence suspended.