Converted Muslim Teen Fears Honor Killing - Page 2

honeychile · #16 09-23-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by moe.ron

Was she murdered or was it honor killing? Give me details.

It's in the very first post, but here it is again: Sarai's story. It's the 15th post. They had agreed to raise their children in the United States, but he changed his mind. The holy men were present when she was executed for family honor.

I don't think I mention it there, but her last letter to me was in code, and "Sarai" said that she feared being punished for not always being obedient, she was afraid of losing her sons, among other things. Unfortunately, she had every reason to worry.

honeychile · #17 09-23-2009, 02:27 PM

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honeychile:

That is so sad. It reminds me of that movie "Not Without My Daughter."

All too much. If I had seen it before this happened, I would have been even more weirded out.

AGDee · #18 09-23-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Oh RU OX Alum is off of his meds and struggling with life, as always. I recommend listening to Miley Cyrus' "Climb."

honeychile:

That is so sad. It reminds me of that movie "Not Without My Daughter."

I met the Not Without My Daughter woman when I was an OT student.. I was treating someone in her household (home health care). Her daughter had that haunted, traumatized look in her eyes.. so sad.

NinjaPoodle · #19 09-23-2009, 03:24 PM

Just as a reminder, STAY ON TOPIC.

GC has a LOT of intelligent people who contribute different view points but just because you don't agree, don't start name calling. That's grounds for you getting KICKED off GC and it's unnecessary. We are all adults. act like it.

Back to topic.

DrPhil · #20 09-23-2009, 03:29 PM

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Stay ON TOPIC.

Or what?

NinjaPoodle · #21 09-23-2009, 03:32 PM

Or why be on here if there is not positive contribution to the topic? Start a new thread if it's that serious.

(sorry, thought it was the quote)

DrPhil · #22 09-23-2009, 03:34 PM

Anyway, the heavy moderating has the opposite effect. People will stick to the topic if you just ignore the off topic posts. You can't tell us what to do.

DrPhil · #23 09-23-2009, 03:37 PM

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I met the Not Without My Daughter woman when I was an OT student.. I was treating someone in her household (home health care). Her daughter had that haunted, traumatized look in her eyes.. so sad.

That is really sad to have such a public and traumatizing childhood (assuming the reports are accurate).

moe.ron · #24 09-24-2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by honeychile

It's in the very first post, but here it is again: Sarai's story. It's the 15th post. They had agreed to raise their children in the United States, but he changed his mind. The holy men were present when she was executed for family honor.

I don't think I mention it there, but her last letter to me was in code, and "Sarai" said that she feared being punished for not always being obedient, she was afraid of losing her sons, among other things. Unfortunately, she had every reason to worry.

Is she Arabic or Malay? Or is she Sawak? These questions are very2 important. Honor killing in SE Asia is foreign and I will continue to say so. It's an outdated cultural exercise from the Middle East that is still followed by those who are descendent of that area in the region. However, it's an alien concept to the region as it's frown upon.

Like I've said, there was a case of Afghan refugee doing the same thing. They were arrested and kicked out of the country. It's an alien concept, just like the honor killing you see in Europe. It's carried out by immigrant from Pakistan. However, it's not native to the UK. So, you can't say it's something dones time and time again in the region.

There is no proof that is' an embedded cultural practices in the region, unless you happen to say that Arabic culture is native to the region.

honeychile · #25 09-24-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee

I met the Not Without My Daughter woman when I was an OT student.. I was treating someone in her household (home health care). Her daughter had that haunted, traumatized look in her eyes.. so sad.

How old would the daughter be by now? Has her father ever tried to visit her?

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Is she Arabic or Malay? Or is she Sawak? These questions are very2 important. Honor killing in SE Asia is foreign and I will continue to say so. It's an outdated cultural exercise from the Middle East that is still followed by those who are descendent of that area in the region. However, it's an alien concept to the region as it's frown upon.

Sarai is dead. She was an American, her husband from Malaysia. Supposedly, he was touted as a hero - he's a newscaster in Kuala Lampur (or was).

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Like I've said, there was a case of Afghan refugee doing the same thing. They were arrested and kicked out of the country. It's an alien concept, just like the honor killing you see in Europe. It's carried out by immigrant from Pakistan. However, it's not native to the UK. So, you can't say it's something dones time and time again in the region.

There is no proof that is' an embedded cultural practices in the region, unless you happen to say that Arabic culture is native to the region.

I wouldn't know enough to say that this is the usual practice. I only know what Sarai told me in her letters/telephone, and what her sister told us about her death.