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11-09-2008, 08:54 AM
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I do not regret voting for Bush either time.
What has happened during his administration is enough to get anyone else traumatized.
He did his best. I truly do not think he is the worst president ever- and not just because he has not had a single sexual scandal. He is not corrupted- nor do I think there has been much corruption during his years. We do need to pull out of Iraq, but can he really be blamed for a bank tricking new homeowners into getting a mortgage for a house they could not afford?
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11-09-2008, 12:13 PM
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He is not corrupted- nor do I think there has been much corruption during his years.
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Enron, rolling blackouts? Haliburton, government contracts in Iraq?
Okay.
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11-09-2008, 12:23 PM
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Enron was a private business that had nothing to do with George W. Bush. I am talking about things that would directly involve him or the government.
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11-09-2008, 12:47 PM
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Enron was a private business that had nothing to do with George W. Bush. I am talking about things that would directly involve him or the government.
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Okay... deregulation, looking the other way during the blackouts? You really don't know about the connection?
The heavy contributions to the campaign?
Read this book: Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room, then you'll get it.
Last edited by kstar; 11-09-2008 at 12:50 PM.
Reason: Added book.
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11-09-2008, 12:49 PM
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Enron, rolling blackouts? Haliburton, government contracts in Iraq?
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Tell me what Bush did that was corrupt regarding ANY of these. Enron was a private company, its not surprising that Bush and Lay were in the same social circle in Texas but he certainly didn't let Lay off easy. Halliburton is the only company capable of doing the work we need in Iraq and they gave the government a good price.
The bottom line is that Bush hasn't done anything terrible, the country was doing fine until September 11th. I think that he is getting the heat for everything that happened during his presidency, even though those things are a result of US policies dating back 30+ years.
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11-09-2008, 01:01 PM
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I agree, but it was his staff that made the mistake with the WMD drama. They said there were WMDs and there weren't any.
I don't know if you saw the movie "W", but something like this was in the movie. It was a good movie. The same guy who directed Nixon did this one too. Oliver Stone I think.
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I left that movie feeling bad for Bush. Honestly, while I don't agree with Bush, and don't like the direction the country has gone in during his presidency, you can't say that I've ever been disrespectful of him. Unless you count going to a Bush rally in 2004 (just to see the sitting President in person, I'm such a geek!) and leaving halfway through (because the people sitting around me were annoying the crap outta me).
ETA: I do feel like Bush is pushed around by Cheney, Wolfowitz, et al, but that's because I dislike Cheney and Wolfowitz.
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11-09-2008, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kstar
Enron, rolling blackouts? Haliburton, government contracts in Iraq?
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The rolling blackouts (in California, at least) started in December of 2000. How is that the fault of Bush's corruption as President?
As far as Enron, they were doing what they were doing well into the late 90s. Does the governor of a state hold that much control over the corporations in his state?
There are plenty of reasons to be unhappy with Bush's performance now that it's almost over, but find some better reasons and we can talk then.
This reminds me of a few weeks or so after a bad breakup, and all you can think of is how bad your ex is. A few months later, you've moved on and can see the positive parts of it. I think this is one of those cases.
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11-09-2008, 05:42 PM
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Munchkin03, don't you think your signature seems a little dated now? It's cool if you want to preserve that for posterity, but I wondered if you forgot about it.
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11-09-2008, 06:25 PM
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Munchkin03, don't you think your signature seems a little dated now? It's cool if you want to preserve that for posterity, but I wondered if you forgot about it.
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No, I didn't forget about it, nor did I save it for prosperity. I'm still riding the happiness of the Obama-win wave.  Plus, internet siggies are kind of a low priority.
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11-09-2008, 06:50 PM
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No, I didn't forget about it, nor did I save it for prosperity. I'm still riding the happiness of the Obama-win wave.  Plus, internet siggies are kind of a low priority.
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Cool, but it doesn't actually seem to be about Obama. How long does one ride an Anti-McCain/Anti-Palin wave? It would seem that wave had crested.
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11-09-2008, 07:30 PM
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I'm not a Bush fan myself, but I honestly think that his presidency will be looked upon alot differently later on in history than it is right now. It's still too early to tell. His 2nd term isn't even officially over yet.
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11-09-2008, 08:50 PM
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"For now, we have a new president-elect. In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president." --Ann Coulter
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The most dispicable treatment Mr. Bush received was from the Republican candidate for president at the end of this campaign. He showed Mr. Bush no loyalty and vigorously tried to distance himself from him. Ms. Coulter should just be quiet.
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11-09-2008, 10:06 PM
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Cool, but it doesn't actually seem to be about Obama. How long does one ride an Anti-McCain/Anti-Palin wave? It would seem that wave had crested.
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I'll change it when I'm good and ready.  Right now, I'm not!
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11-09-2008, 10:19 PM
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Cool, but it doesn't actually seem to be about Obama. How long does one ride an Anti-McCain/Anti-Palin wave? It would seem that wave had crested.
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Munchkin's one of the smartest and most respectful people on the board. I wouldn't read too much into her keeping her signature.
Let people savor the victory for their candidate - I'd probably have something pro-McCain in my signature if he had somehow pulled a rabbit out of the hat and won it.
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11-09-2008, 10:46 PM
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I think Bush's presidency will be much better regarded by history than it is today.
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I'd like to agree with this. It has always been my exact sentiment. I think that time has a way of smoothing over things so that they can be seen in a new and sometimes entirely different light.
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