Obama's Rhetoric is the Real Catastrophe - Page 19

cheerfulgreek · #**271** 02-19-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

And btw... the clear gummi bears ARE the best.

I like them refrigerated. Yummy.

DaemonSeid · #**272** 02-19-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Tremendous irony. Tremendous. Too much for words.

Running out of gas there?

Too much for words?

Too much for you to waste on one good post?

Dang you are no fun.

deepimpact2 · #**273** 02-19-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

I get that you were born in a different era than most here, but adapt.

And I think we all know what era you and some of these others represent.

deepimpact2 · #**274** 02-19-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

I'm not a point of comparison, and you've shown yourself to be less than able in this thread anyway.

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You're right. You aren't a point of comparison..on anything worthwhile at least.

As far as YOU telling someone they have shown themselves as less than able...I'm curious as to why you always feel you are in a position to make such judgment calls. Who are you exactly?

DaemonSeid · #**275** 02-19-2009, 09:33 AM

Discrimination against blacks linked to dehumanization, study finds

Crude historical depictions of African Americans as ape-like may have disappeared from mainstream U.S. culture, but research presented in a new paper by psychologists at Stanford, Pennsylvania State University and the University of California-Berkeley reveals that many Americans subconsciously associate blacks with apes.

Not Yet Human: Implicit Knowledge, Historical Dehumanization and Contemporary Consequences

KSig RC · #**276** 02-19-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

You're right. You aren't a point of comparison..on anything worthwhile at least.

I know you were the smartest kid in your 5th grade class, and Mom always told you to be yourself, but that stopped . . . in 5th grade. You seem to have some difficulty adapting to a world in which other people are more intelligent and cogent than you are. Work on that.

Or, alternately, Occam's Razor could be wrong, and you could be right and EVERYONE else is stupid!

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

As far as YOU telling someone they have shown themselves as less than able...I'm curious as to why you always feel you are in a position to make such judgment calls. Who are you exactly?

I sincerely hope you're kidding, since you've proven to be one of the most judgmental individuals in this board's history (IRONY!), and you're the highest-ranking corporal in the IT'S MY OPINION Army.

Sadly, you're not.

DaemonSeid · #**277** 02-19-2009, 10:28 AM

pot meet kettle

fun times.

KSig RC · #**278** 02-19-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

pot meet kettle

fun times.

This is racist - black kettle? Dehumanized much? Come on, like we can't all see right through this.

DaemonSeid · #**279** 02-19-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

This is racist - black kettle? Dehumanized much? Come on, like we can't all see right through this.

Wooooooooooooooow...that was indeed lame...LOL

Damn...that made me laugh so hard, seriously man...not all kettles are black...but it says something about your mindset that THE FIRST thing that popped in your mind was a BLACK kettle.

Oh....

Wait...

That was YOUR POV.

Your kneejerk reaction to what was said.

Damn..I don't have an Infinite Internet Theory Hypothesis Proposal to cover that.

Hmmm...It's racist.

Thanks!

KSig RC · #**280** 02-19-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Wooooooooooooooow...that was indeed lame...LOL

I make no claims to comedic genius, guy - although clearly I was kidding.

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Damn...that made me laugh so hard, seriously man...not all kettles are black...but it says something about your mindset that THE FIRST thing that popped in your mind was a BLACK kettle.

Erm, the maxim is "that's like the pot calling the kettle black." That's the reference, always and forever.

So . . . yeah. Maybe you should sit a few plays out?

DaemonSeid · #**281** 02-19-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

I make no claims to comedic genius, guy - although clearly I was kidding.

so was I...I was seriously laughing...slide over and watch for splinters!

KSigkid · #**282** 02-19-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

You're right. You aren't a point of comparison..on anything worthwhile at least.

As far as YOU telling someone they have shown themselves as less than able...I'm curious as to why you always feel you are in a position to make such judgment calls. Who are you exactly?

I think part of the problem, or at least the issue I have when I try to debate your points, is that you drop what I'll call a "debate atomic bomb." Essentially, you'll make your point, and then, in some way, you'll express that there's no other side of the argument, and that your statement should stand as the definitive last word. If someone tries to disagree with you, you either disparage them, or refuse to engage them in any sort of debate. Now, I know for a fact that you're dealing with some pretty intelligent people in this thread (one of whom, KSigRC, is a friend in real life and whom I know to be an incredibly smart person).

That's not making any judgment on your own intelligence, but it is making a judgment in how you've confronted debate in this thread and others. You don't have to accept their ideas, but if you're going to initiate debate, there has to be a little big of give and take, in an intellectual sense.

I guess my major point is that there are a lot of issues that are open to debate and interpretation. I'm not saying we should "agree to disagree" or any of that garbage, or that we should be changing our own views because someone brought up a contrary point, but if you're going to make a statement in a public forum, you have to be ready for the fact that there are intelligent and reasonable counterarguments out there. You can't just scream at the top of your lungs "This is how I feel, and that's the end of it."

Jumping off of what Sensuret said earlier, there are a bunch of smart people on this site (GeekyPenguin, Sensuret, DrPhil, nittanyalum, MysticCat, to name a few) who I know I don't agree with on every issue, or even on most issues. I know that I'm probably not going to change their views on most things, and their not going to change my views on most things. Yet, I respect the fact that they've obviously thought a lot about the issues, and that they can come at it in both an academic sense and a "real-world" sense.

UGAalum94 · #**283** 02-19-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid

I think part of the problem, or at least the issue I have when I try to debate your points, is that you drop what I'll call a "debate atomic bomb." Essentially, you'll make your point, and then, in some way, you'll express that there's no other side of the argument, and that your statement should stand as the definitive last word. If someone tries to disagree with you, you either disparage them, or refuse to engage them in any sort of debate. Now, I know for a fact that you're dealing with some pretty intelligent people in this thread (one of whom, KSigRC, is a friend in real life and whom I know to be an incredibly smart person).

That's not making any judgment on your own intelligence, but it is making a judgment in how you've confronted debate in this thread and others. You don't have to accept their ideas, but if you're going to initiate debate, there has to be a little big of give and take, in an intellectual sense.

I guess my major point is that there are a lot of issues that are open to debate and interpretation. I'm not saying we should "agree to disagree" or any of that garbage, or that we should be changing our own views because someone brought up a contrary point, but if you're going to make a statement in a public forum, you have to be ready for the fact that there are intelligent and reasonable counterarguments out there. You can't just scream at the top of your lungs "This is how I feel, and that's the end of it."

Jumping off of what Sensuret said earlier, there are a bunch of smart people on this site (GeekyPenguin, Sensuret, DrPhil, nittanyalum, MysticCat, to name a few) who I know I don't agree with on every issue, or even on most issues. I know that I'm probably not going to change their views on most things, and their not going to change my views on most things. Yet, I respect the fact that they've obviously thought a lot about the issues, and that they can come at it in both an academic sense and a "real-world" sense.

I know you didn't mention her, but has anyone heard from Breathesgelatin lately?

agzg · #**284** 02-19-2009, 12:35 PM

I guess back on topic before this became a discussion of race and the "you're stupid," "no you're stupid":

I would be surprised if there wasn't a little bit of fear mongering on the part of Obama and Democrats in Congress in regard to the economy for a couple of reasons.

1. Republicans harp on the national security issues. Democrats harp on economic issues. This is nothing new.
2. We (as Americans) showed that we responded to negative or scary language. It got Bush a second term, and it got us into Iraq, if you buy that argument (I don't buy it wholeheartedly).

KSigkid · #**285** 02-19-2009, 12:37 PM

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It got Bush a second term, and it got us into Iraq, if you buy that argument (I don't buy it wholeheartedly).

I would disagree with that argument, at least in part because I think a big boost to Bush's second term was the inability of the Democrats to field a viable candidate. Kerry was a complete disaster, and if the Democrats had found someone better I think it would have been a much closer and tougher race.