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08-13-2012, 10:51 PM
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Thanks YAUmom and AUMom2011. I placed an order through Tiger Surprise yesterday and it was delivered this afternoon. My daughter has spoken highly of the sisterhood and how down to earth the girls are. She was greeted with tons of hugs today.
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08-13-2012, 10:57 PM
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TNAuburnMom, I'm guessing your daughter is from TN given your screen name, my daughter is also from TN. I told her to be on the lookout for girls from TN, I scanned the bid list it looks like they took at least 4 -5.
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08-14-2012, 12:14 AM
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My daughter's bid day buddy is from TN and She adores her. She is who sold my daughter on ΚΑΘ.
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TNAuburnMom, I'm guessing your daughter is from TN given your screen name, my daughter is also from TN. I told her to be on the lookout for girls from TN, I scanned the bid list it looks like they took at least 4 -5.
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08-14-2012, 12:10 AM
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I am so glad that all the girls are so happy!!!! I really think my dau's unhappiness is because she got her 3rd choice, not the choice itself. Hopefully she can move past that. Its like she had a huge global meltdown today and needed 4 xanax!! Its that 'this only happened to me and I'm gonna cry about it because I want to' kind of thing. I know there were girls that were cut out of rush, or cut themselves out, so I think she's being a little selfish. Tomorrow is a new day, and she's coming home to pick up some things, hopefully her self-confidence will be there as well.
Thanks so much everyone, its been a difficult day, and ya'll made it better!!!!
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08-14-2012, 05:47 PM
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I am so glad that all the girls are so happy!!!! I really think my dau's unhappiness is because she got her 3rd choice, not the choice itself. Hopefully she can move past that. Its like she had a huge global meltdown today and needed 4 xanax!! Its that 'this only happened to me and I'm gonna cry about it because I want to' kind of thing. I know there were girls that were cut out of rush, or cut themselves out, so I think she's being a little selfish. Tomorrow is a new day, and she's coming home to pick up some things, hopefully her self-confidence will be there as well.
Thanks so much everyone, its been a difficult day, and ya'll made it better!!!! 
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While most PNMs do get their first choice, if you ever see statistics from Panhellenic recruitments throughout the country, within those statistics, you will see the number who received their first, second and third choices, and will also see a number for "Unmatched". These are PNMs who have attended Prep but do not receive a bid. Miami University has posted their statistics in the past (and not for at least one month following bid day), and you might be surprised how the process pans out.
We all know that all chapters at Auburn are fantastic and what is more important than the actives who say they want you is how your daughter becomes friends with her new member class and stays friends for the rest of their lives.
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08-14-2012, 12:17 PM
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TNAuburnMom and YAUMom...
As a former member of Grand Council for Theta, I am so thrilled to hear about two new happy Thetas at Auburn! I was involved in the recolonization of that chapter (prior to my council service) and then spent nearly a week there for their first formal recruitment back on campus. It is a great bunch of women!
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08-14-2012, 02:30 PM
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As much as I feel I understand RFM, I do have a question for the super experienced. Let's use Auburn 2012 as an example. Some houses were way over what I have read was quota (58??) So if a house is 10 over, do you feel those 10 are from quota additions from girls that were low on that specific chapter's bid list (as all girls at preference are on each preference chapter's bid list somewhere) and that girl either only pref'd that house or pref'd more than one and she was simply not as low on ABC as DEF? As work week is starting, I guess I am just trying to have a deeper understanding of RFM then what is explained (which at times is "it's complicated, but it works...trust the process) I had always felt chapters that took on more girls than quota were either under total to begin with, but from what I now understand that is not true and that all chapters have to take quota additions (to reward girls that maximized their options) unless it was arranged prior to recruitment to not take anything over quota.
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08-14-2012, 02:45 PM
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As much as I feel I understand RFM, I do have a question for the super experienced. Let's use Auburn 2012 as an example. Some houses were way over what I have read was quota (58??) So if a house is 10 over, do you feel those 10 are from quota additions from girls that were low on that specific chapter's bid list (as all girls at preference are on each preference chapter's bid list somewhere) and that girl either only pref'd that house or pref'd more than one and she was simply not as low on ABC as DEF? As work week is starting, I guess I am just trying to have a deeper understanding of RFM then what is explained (which at times is "it's complicated, but it works...trust the process) I had always felt chapters that took on more girls than quota were either under total to begin with, but from what I now understand that is not true and that all chapters have to take quota additions (to reward girls that maximized their options) unless it was arranged prior to recruitment to not take anything over quota.
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As always, my biggest ICS/RFM experiences are with smaller scale recruitments so gurus, please correct me:
The QAs with RFM are typically those women who listed that chapter #1. They have also maxmized their options (listed all 3 choices.) You're not eligible to be a QA to any chapter if you don't maximize your options. So yes, you're right in that QAs reward those women who do so.
The main purpose of QAs is to place as many women (who have played by the rules) with their top choices.
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08-14-2012, 02:48 PM
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Wouldn't women who listed a chapter first and were also on the first bid list not need to be QAs?
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08-14-2012, 03:01 PM
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Wouldn't women who listed a chapter first and were also on the first bid list not need to be QAs?
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You're right. It's more for those who play by the rules but aren't as high up.
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08-14-2012, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06
As always, my biggest ICS/RFM experiences are with smaller scale recruitments so gurus, please correct me:
The QAs with RFM are typically those women who listed that chapter #1. They have also maxmized their options (listed all 3 choices.) You're not eligible to be a QA to any chapter if you don't maximize your options. So yes, you're right in that QAs reward those women who do so.
The main purpose of QAs is to place as many women (who have played by the rules) with their top choices.
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No. The goal of RFM is that everybody girl who sticks it out through all of recruitment gets matched with a bid somewhere.
If a PNM does not match in the top of the list for any of her three groups before they get to quota, she is generally placed in whichever of the three is smaller. This can very from school to school. At some schools they have it so that a QA will go to whichever of her top two choices is smaller, but is not necessarily her #1. (If all are the same size - the tie breaker might be her choice.)
The RFM specialist sets quota. She often will try to set it so that as many women as possible are matched AND that every chapter makes quota. Statistically, this happens then that a very large fraction of women will get their top choice from preference.
Thus every chapter making quota means that - in general - the Greek system is strong. (It does not necessarily mean ready for expansion.)
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08-14-2012, 04:02 PM
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Congrats to all of you at Auburn!! I know you moms are sooo glad it's over..now for the fun part!
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08-14-2012, 04:46 PM
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No. The goal of RFM is that everybody girl who sticks it out through all of recruitment gets matched with a bid somewhere.
If a PNM does not match in the top of the list for any of her three groups before they get to quota, she is generally placed in whichever of the three is smaller. This can very from school to school. At some schools they have it so that a QA will go to whichever of her top two choices is smaller, but is not necessarily her #1. (If all are the same size - the tie breaker might be her choice.)
The RFM specialist sets quota. She often will try to set it so that as many women as possible are matched AND that every chapter makes quota. Statistically, this happens then that a very large fraction of women will get their top choice from preference.
Thus every chapter making quota means that - in general - the Greek system is strong. (It does not necessarily mean ready for expansion.)
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This. The chapters that have the largest new member classes (which means they took the most QAs) are generally the ones who were able to invite more to their preference parties based on return stats from prior years. Many people look at bid lists where everyone made quota and assume the largest new member classes equal the strongest recruiting chapters and that really isn't the case.
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08-14-2012, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?
This. The chapters that have the largest new member classes (which means they took the most QAs) are generally the ones who were able to invite more to their preference parties based on return stats from prior years. Many people look at bid lists where everyone made quota and assume the largest new member classes equal the strongest recruiting chapters and that really isn't the case.
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Agreed. Also, I heard from an adviser at Auburn that quota was 58, so all chapters did indeed make quota (which isn't that surprising with a strong system under RFM). Quota is down slightly from last year.
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