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RozRochelle · #**226** 06-07-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mccoyred

I am so sorry that it took you THIS long to realize that

Actually it didn't, I was just overstating the obvious. I had hoped to come to some kind of mutual understanding or truce, but now I just don't give a rat's behind. I keep trying and trying to END this trainwreck, but you all just won't let it go. Your post to me after I said PEACE is proof positive.

I am done and no longer responding to anything in this thread.

LET.IT.GO.PEOPLE.

ladygreek · #**227** 06-07-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mccoyred

I am so sorry that it took you THIS long to realize that

Hey soror,
Have you noticed how some people just never get it? And everyone else is wrong but them? That happens on my job with some folx.

AKA_Monet · #**228** 06-07-2007, 02:55 AM

Decorum is a reference of esteemed intelligence and family origin. It is was developed in the Royal Court since Roman times and it is high society. You can think and behave however you choose, but in most civilized societies, people interact properly and appropriately in order to conduct business and communication.

Have you ever said any members of the NPHC that is respectful? Your mere comments to me state how you have choosen to denigrate and demean us, and then demand our assistance with our expertise.

When several other greek members have given you there "professional opinion" because they work in nonprofit and for profit organizational development, you have berated and insulted their intelligence. Then you choose to become defensive and deride us further.

Suggestion: Just stop posting on GC where NPHC members frequent. That way, you will never have to worry about anything. Continue posting what you have written below and you will continue to cry about why we NPHC members seem not like what you say or how you say it. Keep is simple for yourself.

You can delete your posts. But once you put it out there, you cannot rescind it...

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Originally Posted by RozRochelle

To me, right is right and wrong is wrong. Period. Damn an allegiance. The more you all respond, trying to make everything that's happened here solely my fault (I jacked some stuff up, I admit that, but everything is not solely my fault and I truly feel that's what y'all want me to cop to, and that is not going to happen), the more I know that this whole debate is a moot point because in you all's eyes I'm "other", and as such I will never be in the right when it comes to any conflict involving another one of "you". So I took a Fukitol pill and I'm chilling. Y'all just do what y'all do, and I'll just do what I'm going to do. We ain't gotta be friends, friendly, or anything else, but I'm not going anywhere. I have as much right to be here as any of you.

I hear what you're saying here, and I agree. But, hear me: Protocol is learned. You learned NPHC protocol because you're in a NPHC organization. I'm not. Until I started my sorority, I wasn't even a greek and had zero knowledge about the inner workings of greekdom. It is unrealistic to think that a total newbie is going to know the many UNWRITTEN rules of NPHC protocol. Hell, the so-called written ones on here are wide open to interpretation, with the advantage going to the prophyte (I think that's the right term) over the neophyte in ALL things.

I started out on GC trying to be friendly and I never INITIATED a conversation with someone by being disrespectful or condescending. However, others - including you - initiated communication with me in that manner, for no other reason than I was new and maybe made a faux pas out of naivete. There was no benefit of the doubt or anything given me.

You all had a preconceived idea about me - based on past experience with new orgs and their members who came on here to start trouble - because I was new and repping a new org. So, despite you all's so-called dislike of stereotyping, you stereotyped me, and lumped me in with the "enemy", and treated me accordingly. THAT was when my attitude changed, and if the truth be told, my attitude has only been negative with those who have approached me negatively, FIRST.

Just because I'm new to this does not give any of you the right to insult me and be condescending to me. And if you think I'm going to sit back and grin and drool like a simpleton, and ask for more please, while y'all shove disrespect down my throat, you have another thing and another think coming.

Y'all just do your thing and let me do mine. Neither the twain need to meet.

PEACE

Little32 · #**229** 06-07-2007, 07:40 AM

Soror AKA_Monet,

I have stopped posting to Roz, because some folks just actively chose not to get it. Some folks are so intent on being right in their perception, that it doesn't matter if everyone else is saying the same thing about their actions...that just means that everyone else is crazy (I think that ladygreek said this).

Anyway, I hope all is well out your way.

AKA_Monet · #**230** 06-08-2007, 01:21 AM

I know Soror Little32,

Roz is a "special case" that requires "special education". She has started a "Sorority" with greek letters that represents...

My only point to even giving her deference, is the more she says, the more we learn about this "case study"...

sigmadiva · #**231** 06-08-2007, 10:50 AM

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....It is sad to see that in this day and age we are still 'crabs in a bucket'.....

So what if you did not like what Roz said or the way she said it. Is her existance and org going to stop you from being who you are? Will it affect membership in your org?

I think some of us need to get off our high horses and understand that there is room for everybody, whether you like them or not, or agree with them or not.

So what if she may have come off as offensive to some of you. Why are you going to let her attitude bother you?

As far as I am concerned as long as she is doing what she wants and how she wants it, it really has no direct impact on me or my org. Just because she may not have answered a question to your liking we are all grown, educated women, get over it.

In the time and energy some of you used to attack her, and vice versa, you could have saved a starving child in Africa.

ladygreek · #**232** 06-08-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sigmadiva

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....It is sad to see that in this day and age we are still 'crabs in a bucket'.....

So what if you did not like what Roz said or the way she said it. Is her existance and org going to stop you from being who you are? Will it affect membership in your org?

I think some of us need to get off our high horses and understand that there is room for everybody, whether you like them or not, or agree with them or not.

So what if she may have come off as offensive to some of you. Why are you going to let her attitude bother you?

As far as I am concerned as long as she is doing what she wants and how she wants it, it really has no direct impact on me or my org. Just because she may not have answered a question to your liking we are all grown, educated women, get over it.

In the time and energy some of you used to attack her, and vice versa, you could have saved a starving child in Africa.

Um, last time I checked this was a message board. People post others respond. Doesn't take much energy.

But please tell us how you are saving a starving child in Africa, so that we know what steps to take.

Little32 · #**233** 06-08-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sigmadiva

As far as I am concerned as long as she is doing what she wants and how she wants it, it really has no direct impact on me or my org. Just because she may not have answered a question to your liking we are all grown, educated women, get over it.

Honestly, I think that Roz made this into an issue of us attacking her because she was in a "new" org. I know for myself, her organizational affiliation never even came into play. It's just as soon as someone says something that contradicts her opinion, she makes it into a "I am in a new org, so you all are bashing me" thing, when really it is just a matter of one individual disagreeing with another individual.

ladygreek · #**234** 06-08-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Little32

Honestly, I think that Roz made this into an issue of us attacking her because she was in a "new" org. I know for myself, her organizational affiliation never even came into play. It's just as soon as someone says something that contradicts her opinion, she makes it into a "I am in a new org, so you all are bashing me" thing, when really it is just a matter of one individual disagreeing with another individual.

Sistergreek, you are so diplomatic.

sigmadiva · #**235** 06-08-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek

Um, last time I checked this was a message board. People post others respond. Doesn't take much energy.

But please tell us how you are saving a starving child in Africa, so that we know what steps to take.

Simple. Call your local church or welfare type group and ask them.

All I meant was the time and energy spent in attacking her could have been put to better use.

True this is a message board and people can post what they want all they want, but I think it is sad and silly to see educated Black women attack each other over issues like this. There are more pressing issues that we have to deal with other than someone who started a greek org.

sigmadiva · #**236** 06-08-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Little32

Honestly, I think that Roz made this into an issue of us attacking her because she was in a "new" org. I know for myself, her organizational affiliation never even came into play. It's just as soon as someone says something that contradicts her opinion, she makes it into a "I am in a new org, so you all are bashing me" thing, when really it is just a matter of one individual disagreeing with another individual.

Then ignore her. If she was on the defensive then let her be.

However she is and portrays herself, others will see. You ( the general you) will not need to point it out. If people are attracted to that then who are we to stop them. Maybe they are better off with her.

RozRochelle · #**237** 06-08-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I know Soror Little32,

Roz is a "special case" that requires "special education". She has started a "Sorority" with greek letters that represents...

My only point to even giving her deference, is the more she says, the more we learn about this "case study"...

I am breaking my silence to say that I would appreciate it if you (and others) would stop insulting me. You wonder why I'm not "getting" what you all have been trying to say to me. I'm not "getting it" because most of you all keep serving your advice with insults and condescention. So, no, I'm not going to "get it" when it's clear that your motives are not good.

I don't need special education. I have already asked you all to leave me alone, and I would do likewise. And in good faith I walked away. But, you all just won't let it go. That speaks more to where your (the collective your) mentalities are than mine. Not being sarcastic or going tit-for-tat, that's just real talk. I'm just saying.

I don't want to end this on bad terms with anyone (we don't have to be pals, just agree to disagree, and move on with no hard feelings), because even though I miss the mark sometimes, I am a Christian and serious about my relationship with Jesus - and EVERYTHING I do, no matter where it's done, reflects on me as a Christian and has an effect and an affect on my testimony. My flesh has wanted me to show my you-know-what MANY times during all of this, but while I was firm and not backing down in my replies, none of you can say that I responded to your personal attacks/insults on me by personally attacking/insulting you back. Yes, I was sarcastic and made a whole lot of smart-alecky comments, but never did I once personally insult any of you like you have me.

And, if any of you can show me where I have done so, I will apologize and MEAN it. In the meantime, all of this needs to end. It has to stop, now. It's not making ANY of our organizations look good, and with all the lurkers on GC who knows how many people this whole thing has turned off and dissuaded from pursuing membership (or even more info)? My org is still in early infancy, and really not off the ground yet, so that won't hurt it; but that cannot be said for the established NPHC orgs whose members have taken part, in what could be perceived as negative ways, in this whole debacle. You all say you love your orgs, well if for no other reason than that being true, all this needs to stop, because it isn't presenting any of our orgs in their best light.

Everybody, just please leave it be.