100 Students Arrested - which fraternity is involved? - Page 14

idkk · #**196** 05-09-2008, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Braindea

Wanted to cite your comment and make my own: Ciaccio was apparently a known gang-member from a Pomona gang, who came into (could one say, infiltrated) Theta Chi - for his purposes.

Ciaccio was not the gang member from Pomona that was Castaneda (the 36 year old man)....

jon1856 · #**197** 05-09-2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Braindea

Wanted to cite your comment and make my own: Ciaccio was apparently a known gang-member from a Pomona gang, who came into (could one say, infiltrated) Theta Chi - for his purposes. In these days of "no hazing, no interviews, accept everybody, no discrimination, no friggin judgement on anybody" - could this not be unreasonably forseen? The Greek System, in some circumstances might be seen as ripe-for-the-taking by bad-actors. I'm not sure we've seen this before, but it will certainly be something we need to look for in the future. Just my opinion.

Seems as if in another posting you stated that you were a Theta Chi from this chapter.
Where you there when he rushed?

And as pointed out, you ID the wrong person as the main dealer.

Edit: Gang Member.
And unless we start doing back-ground checks, not sure how your comments about pledging have much to do with this case at all.

33girl · #**198** 05-09-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

And as pointed out, you ID the wrong person as the main dealer.

No, idkk was saying that the gang member from Pomona was Castaneda, not Ciaccio. idkk did NOT say that Ciaccio was not the main drug dealer....simply that he was not a gang member.

Which I'm inclined to agree. I don't think a 36 year old gang member would be a very effective main dealer at a college...everyone would think he was a narc.

jon1856 · #**199** 05-09-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

No, idkk was saying that the gang member from Pomona was Castaneda, not Ciaccio. idkk did NOT say that Ciaccio was not the main drug dealer....simply that he was not a gang member.

Which I'm inclined to agree. I don't think a 36 year old gang member would be a very effective main dealer at a college...everyone would think he was a narc.

Yes, I miss posted/typed

Need more coffee this AM. MS download problems last night.......

RG-SAM · #**200** 05-09-2008, 12:30 PM

5/7/2008

Gamma Nu Chapter Temporarily Suspended Operations Pending an Investigation

INDIANAPOLIS (Wednesday, May 7, 2008). As the result of San Diego State University's interim suspension of the Gamma Nu chapter of Sigma Alpha Mu, the Fraternity has temporarily suspended operations of the chapter pending an investigation.

Gamma Nu was one of six fraternity chapters suspended by the University as the result of an investigation into drug trafficking/sales. One individual affiliated with the Gamma Nu chapter has reportedly been arrested. The chapter has suspended this member and is reviewing his status.

Sigma Alpha Mu Fraternity is committed to developing leaders, fostering scholastic excellence and preparing members to be good citizens. The use and/or trafficking of illegal substances is contrary to the values and traditions of the Fraternity. The Fraternity supports the University's and law enforcement's efforts to fight this major social problem.

Sigma Alpha Mu was founded in 1909 at the College of the City of New York as a Fraternity of Jewish men. Today the fraternity has active chapters on 62 North-American campuses.

ZetaPhi708 · #**201** 05-09-2008, 07:09 PM

On my way home from work this evening, not more than 30 minutes ago, I heard a news report on NPR about the events at SDSU and about drug use at other colleges; I have to praise their reporting as they did not mention AT ALL any GLOs....it was refreshing to hear a report that DID NOT say "fraternity this, fraternity that".....

postivevoiceusa · #**202** 05-09-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ZetaPhi708

t was refreshing to hear a report that DID NOT say "fraternity this, fraternity that".....

I need to disagree with this statement. In the news coverage you heard, they may not have been too obvious about it, but the stories I've been following have been quite quick to name fraternities, focus on the Greeks at SDSU as a cause of the problem, and portray us in that classic "animal house" image once again.

The saddest part is that less then 1% of the entire Greek SDSU population is represented by the actions of the few Greeks that were arrested Tuesday.

I'm doing my best to spread the word that Greeks a positive influence on the campus of US colleges. Please see my video posting on youtube by clicking here. The media never shows the great things Greeks do, at least not in any big media way (which is simply the way the media works...i'm not complaining).

Instead of complaining and being negative about how we've been treated by the media in the past, I've taken initiative and started the Greeks Do Great Things Website (click here) so that Greeks from around the country can show the world the great things that they've done on their specific college campus.

Go to the site, leave a quick note about a positive thing that your chapter has done for your community or campus, and help me change the "animal house" sex drugs and rock and roll image that Greeks are portrayed with.

The world is looking at us all right now. I had nearly 10,000 people visit the blog article that I published on the topic in the first 48 hours that it was online. People came from all over the world, including Shanghai, London, South Africa, Australia, Sweden, and much more.

The World Is Watching!

Show that Greeks are a positive influence on campuses around the country!

Tell your story at GreeksDoGreatThings.com

BetteDavisEyes · #**203** 05-09-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by postivevoiceusa

I need to disagree with this statement. In the news coverage you heard, they may not have been too obvious about it, but the stories I've been following have been quite quick to name fraternities, focus on the Greeks at SDSU as a cause of the problem, and portray us in that classic "animal house" image once again.

Unless you were listening to the same news report ZetaPhi was listening to, I suggest you clam up and stop advertising your site here.

postivevoiceusa · #**204** 05-09-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes

Unless you were listening to the same news report ZetaPhi was listening to, I suggest you clam up and stop advertising your site here.

I apologize for making you think I'm just hear to advertise. That couldn't be further from the truth.

I'm here to get the Greeks of the country to come together and voice the positive things that they've done on their local college campus. Please take the time to understand that the world is watching Greeks and we can use this to abolish that negative image that non-Greeks have of fraternity or sorority life.

If we can work together we can do this!

Sorry BetteDavisEyes, but I simply can't "clam up" or shut up about this. Now is the time to show the world what positive things greeks can do.

Be a part of the positivity and not a part of the problem

DSTCHAOS · #**205** 05-09-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by postivevoiceusa

The world is looking at us all right now

Not really. But it's easy to get caught up in the story and sensationalize.

Drug use on college campuses has been a story in many settings for a long time. There have been undercover officers at city-based campuses for over decades, even if massive busts have not taken place. There have also been discussion by campus police departments and officials on trying to survey to student population or find other ways to gauge the drug use. It's just easier to target groups of college students (i.e. GLOs) because these are aggregates of students whose activities are more easily tracked. People who aren't dumb know that drug use among GLO members is only a sample of the larger college student population that is using and dealing drugs.

DSTCHAOS · #**206** 05-09-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by postivevoiceusa

I'm here to get the Greeks of the country to come together and voice the positive things that they've done on their local college campus.

We have tons of threads on that already that concerned citizens can read at their leisure.

Please don't advertise your site on here anymore.

jon1856 · #**207** 05-09-2008, 09:47 PM

Most of the following story is based off of what must be the AP article that many papers used.
However it does have a few things I have not seen before:
Student from Hawaii caught up in drug bust

SAN DIEGO (AP) - An honors student pleaded not guilty Thursday to charges that he sold cocaine in an undercover operation that culminated in massive drug busts at San Diego State University.

Kenneth Ciaccio, the suspected leader of a cocaine trafficking ring at the 34,000-student campus, is accused of selling cocaine twice to government agents. He faces up to six years and four months in prison if he is convicted.

His mother wept behind her hand as he was led out of the courtroom in shackles........
Federal officials said 128 people, including at least 75 SDSU students as well as a student from Hawaii who attends Grossmont College in nearby El Cajon, were arrested during the five-month investigation. Some students detained for minor drug offenses or other infractions turned informants for federal agents..........
Ciaccio's lawyer, Michael Messina, said he had not seen any evidence proving that his client was at the center of the ring purportedly operating out of the rundown fraternity house, a block off Fraternity Row.

"I do not believe he's the main guy," Messina said after the court hearing.
.........
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/student...08212909990013

postivevoiceusa · #**208** 05-09-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

We have tons of threads on that already that concerned citizens can read at their leisure.

Please don't advertise your site on here anymore.

That's really a bummer that this idea is getting shot down on this board. I realize that 'concerned' citizens can wander through the threads of this forum and filter our the positive things that greeks have done. But that's not an efficient way to get the word out there...sure, it will work slowly, but I'm not satisfied with that.

I'm not trying to advertise...I'm trying to get people to take action. If you can't see that then I apologize. I've received support through other areas where I've been rounding up the troops and maybe I should just stick to positive arenas where Greeks care.

If I can gather enough positive stories about Greeks on my website, then I'm 100% confident I can get the media to stop ignoring the great things greeks do. I've never been prouder to be Greek then I have this week, interacting with so many people and explaining to each person exactly what it means to be greek.

People care, and I think it's important to spread the word.

sorry. please don't take this the wrong way = /

DSTCHAOS · #**209** 05-09-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by postivevoiceusa

I realize that 'concerned' citizens can wander through the threads of this forum and filter our the positive things that greeks have done.

Good.

"Damage control" can often have the opposite effect than you expect.

postivevoiceusa · #**210** 05-09-2008, 10:10 PM

I'm not sure where I heard this quote, but it inspires me everyday, especially when I am hit with negativity

"It is not the times of greatness that show who you are...it's the times of trial and hardship that shows the measure of your character"

You have confirmed that this is a great statement to live each day by. I'm working to promote a positive message and will not stop because you don't agree. I will stop for awhile here on this forum because I don't have the time to try to convince a single person about this.

Please Just Do This

Check the site 1 week from now so you can see what other people think of the site. I hope that the actions of people from around the country will actually show you that people do care about trying to promote positive actions of Greeks.

In closing, I wish you well and hope that you will check the site next week. I do admire that you are speaking your mind and applaud you for that, but I simply don't agree with the points of your argument.

-a concerned Greek doing something to make a difference