Cincy Officers Cleared in Death of Nathaniel Jones

[darling1]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
My Soror..My Soror...did you or did you not hit the nail on the head?!?!? I was SO offended when a black woman (I'm not sure if she's the head of an organization or a member of the man's family) said the we must end the "LYNCHING" of black men in America!! How on earth could she compare a black man being LYNCHED to this brother who's high, beliggerent, and making racist comments?? It is so true that the race card seems to be played whenever there are black and white people involved..and we don't get our way. It's almost expected everytime something like this happens....

And I sincerely believe that a 350 pound white guy would have been handled the same way. Just as not all white/black people are racist or evil ...not all police (whether in Ohio or NYC) are bad.

I'm anxious to see what the coroner's report will say.

for my gc'ers who live in the cincy area, i pray that your city gets through this!!


i have seen the video on my local news and this issue has me a bit torn. although it was a horrible thing to see this man being beaten, i am feeling in some ways that he did it to himself. according to what i have heard and read, he was intoxicated/high. in addition he was a large man. most people with sound judgement know that when you are stopped a cop, you do not resist! yes sir and no sir should be the only things you say unless you are asked a question by the officer.

from what i saw of the tape, at one point, he looked as of he was attacking one of the cops. why? why would you knowingly put yourself in more harms way unless your faculties were impaired?

this undoubtedly will cause additional tension in this city and the race card will be used. but i am afraid that in this instance this poor man has no one else to blame but himself .

so senseless!

[darling1]

Originally posted by sister_hood02
I suppose what everyone is failing to recognize is the minute and 37 seconds that the tape wasn't rolling. According to news reports, the dash camera only works while the cops blue lights are flashing. Supposedly, one of the cops used a remote control to activate the camera from outside of the vehicle. Interestingly, the tape begins with the black man attacking the cops. No one really knows what happened during that minute and 37 seconds leading up to that attack. I honestly feel that those cops used excessive force, clearly. There comes a time when it's just human nature to fight back. Clearly, he was on something(drugs) so clearly he's going to fight back not recognizing that he's fighting cops perhaps. Regardless, those cops were out of line.

this is why, this situation is so troubling! i wonder will anyone really know what happened in those first few seconds? unfortunately based on what i have seen and read, i am not sure if i agree that the cops were fully out of line .

[Diva_01]

I am in agreeance with ClassyLady. Like I've mentioned before, I want to join the police force, and things like this are things that I think about all the time. Just because someone swings on me does not mean I should beat them down with my nightstick, especially when I have 5 0r 6 other officers to help me. Even if he had to use it, he didn't have to continue to beat him down after he was on the ground, which is what I got from the video. Police officers know the potential situations thay may get into, and they are paid to deal with things like this. Even now, when I have to restain my residents, I try to make sure I do not hurt them.

I actually think that stun guns/tasers are a good idea, as long as they used properly. If the police officers do not get giddy and stun a man to death, then it will avoid a lot of physical confrontations. I hope they get it together, because I thinking about going back to Cinci...

[CrimsonTide4]

Officers Cleared In Death of Black Man
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2004
By: Associated Press

The Cincinnati police officers involved in the deadly struggle with Nathaniel Jones will not face any criminal charges, Hamilton County Prosecutor Mike Allen announced Monday.

Jones, 41, died after the confrontation with six officers in the parking lot of a White Castle restaurant in Avondale in November. The officers needed three sets of handcuffs to subdue Jones, whose behavior inside the restaurant prompted a call to police about his disorderly conduct.

Much of the struggle was caught on a police cruiser camera, and the video's contents prompted outrage on both sides of the community once it was released publicly.

"The only crimes committed were committed by Nathaniel Jones," Allen said at a press conference Monday evening. "My office finds that no crimes were committed by any police officers. It is my decision that this case is now closed and will not be presented to a grand jury."

Read the rest here

[TonyB06]

I'd feel better if an independent agency came to this conclusion.

I just hope my city stays calm behind this....again.

[SKEEphistAKAte]

**slowly backing out of thread** Don't want my views to start a race riot.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
Officers Cleared In Death of Black Man
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2004
By: Associated Press

The Cincinnati police officers involved in the deadly struggle with Nathaniel Jones will not face any criminal charges, Hamilton County Prosecutor Mike Allen announced Monday.

Jones, 41, died after the confrontation with six officers in the parking lot of a White Castle restaurant in Avondale in November. The officers needed three sets of handcuffs to subdue Jones, whose behavior inside the restaurant prompted a call to police about his disorderly conduct.

Much of the struggle was caught on a police cruiser camera, and the video's contents prompted outrage on both sides of the community once it was released publicly.

"The only crimes committed were committed by Nathaniel Jones," Allen said at a press conference Monday evening. "My office finds that no crimes were committed by any police officers. It is my decision that this case is now closed and will not be presented to a grand jury."

Read the rest here

Next step: civil lawsuit. The city fathers and mothers will just shell out the caiche-foo, and probably not look at real reforms.

[TonyB06]

Originally posted by Steeltrap
Next step: civil lawsuit. The city fathers and mothers will just shell out the caiche-foo, and probably not look at real reforms.

...and it's so stupid because this foolishness is cyclical. There are blue-ribbon reports sitting in City Hall gathering dust, because these mo-fos don't have the stones to reform this particular police deparment.

[WenD08]

so far it's been pretty quiet here, perhaps a little too quiet. i wouldn't look for any real reform until Mike Allen, city prosecutor, PD Chief Striker, and the mayor are out plus a new way of electing city council members is voted on and enacted.
as for a civil lawsuit, we'll see about that...

[TonyB06]

Ohio Cops Urged to Work with Monitor
April 4, 2005
Associated Press
Black America Web


CINCINNATI -- Three years ago, after riots rocked the city, the mayor stood with the nation's attorney general and promised to tighten police procedures and improve relations with blacks. Last week, a federal judge ordered police to stop butting heads with the monitor overseeing the reforms - or else.

Among other things, the monitor has complained that police are not documenting in full detail all instances in which they stopped people or used pepper spray, dogs or stun guns. Also, the police chief has clashed with one of the monitor's staff members, questioning her competence, refusing to let her ride along to observe drug trafficking and escorting her out of police headquarters.

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site....es/ohiocops405

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